1 00:00:05,689 --> 00:00:10,580 "Can you address an explosive movement 2 00:00:10,580 --> 00:00:13,653 called the 'New Apostolic Reformation'? 3 00:00:13,653 --> 00:00:16,890 Not many people in reformed circles know about it, 4 00:00:16,890 --> 00:00:19,409 but it's claiming many young people. 5 00:00:19,409 --> 00:00:21,098 What does the church need to know 6 00:00:21,098 --> 00:00:24,692 about this fast-growing movement? 7 00:00:24,692 --> 00:00:26,450 And how should we respond 8 00:00:26,450 --> 00:00:29,089 when genuine believers adopt 9 00:00:29,089 --> 00:00:33,527 'new apostolic' teachings and practices? 10 00:00:33,527 --> 00:00:36,759 There's a lot of confusion surrounding this. 11 00:00:36,759 --> 00:00:39,000 Is it just slightly off 12 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:43,280 or is it heading in a dangerous direction? 13 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,459 Many dear friends are involved, 14 00:00:45,459 --> 00:00:47,709 so this hits close to home 15 00:00:47,709 --> 00:00:50,607 as it does for many being confronted 16 00:00:50,607 --> 00:00:53,097 with this new teaching." 17 00:00:53,097 --> 00:00:56,191 Now, I would just say several things about this. 18 00:00:56,191 --> 00:00:58,190 Probably it's not a new teaching. 19 00:00:58,190 --> 00:01:01,069 Probably it's old teachings under new names. 20 00:01:01,069 --> 00:01:03,911 That's typical with almost everything. 21 00:01:03,911 --> 00:01:05,270 I don't know a whole lot 22 00:01:05,270 --> 00:01:07,401 about the "New Apostolic Reformation." 23 00:01:07,401 --> 00:01:12,482 And quite honestly, I don't really care to know a whole lot. 24 00:01:12,482 --> 00:01:15,589 But I would say this, 25 00:01:15,589 --> 00:01:20,349 we don't need to study every new movement. 26 00:01:20,349 --> 00:01:23,630 We don't need to read every new book 27 00:01:23,630 --> 00:01:26,730 that comes along attacking some doctrine 28 00:01:26,730 --> 00:01:30,499 or is heretical or is an aberration 29 00:01:30,499 --> 00:01:34,890 or overemphasizes or exaggerates something. 30 00:01:34,890 --> 00:01:36,610 They're always around. 31 00:01:36,610 --> 00:01:38,740 And you can get all the books today 32 00:01:38,740 --> 00:01:40,370 on the latest thing 33 00:01:40,370 --> 00:01:42,570 and it will be something else tomorrow. 34 00:01:42,570 --> 00:01:44,269 But oftentimes like I say, 35 00:01:44,269 --> 00:01:45,780 it's under a new name. 36 00:01:45,780 --> 00:01:49,940 It's old errors. 37 00:01:49,940 --> 00:01:52,580 We need to be people who know our Bibles. 38 00:01:52,580 --> 00:01:54,320 And I'll just tell you this, 39 00:01:54,320 --> 00:02:04,610 false religion is typically demonic, Satanic. 40 00:02:04,610 --> 00:02:09,800 What text speaks about demon doctrines? 41 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,568 Anybody know? 42 00:02:13,568 --> 00:02:14,971 James: 1 Timothy 4? 43 00:02:14,971 --> 00:02:16,739 Tim: 1 Timothy 4. 44 00:02:16,739 --> 00:02:18,610 What are some of the demon doctrines 45 00:02:18,610 --> 00:02:19,769 spoken about there? 46 00:02:19,769 --> 00:02:21,349 James: Abstaining from marriage, 47 00:02:21,349 --> 00:02:22,690 certain types of foods. 48 00:02:22,690 --> 00:02:25,110 Tim: Exactly. 49 00:02:25,110 --> 00:02:26,690 Demon doctrines. 50 00:02:26,690 --> 00:02:28,818 We know this: 51 00:02:28,818 --> 00:02:31,070 You've got these messengers of Satan. 52 00:02:31,070 --> 00:02:32,829 They come as angels of light. 53 00:02:32,829 --> 00:02:35,740 False religion is very Satanic. 54 00:02:35,740 --> 00:02:38,370 It's very demonic. 55 00:02:38,370 --> 00:02:46,650 Satan is after two things primarily: 56 00:02:46,650 --> 00:02:49,249 he hates Scripture. 57 00:02:49,249 --> 00:02:54,478 He will attack the sufficiency of Scripture. 58 00:02:54,478 --> 00:02:55,788 (incomplete thought) 59 00:02:55,788 --> 00:03:02,209 Now look, sometimes new movements are good. 60 00:03:02,209 --> 00:03:07,690 Sometimes the new movement is the truth. 61 00:03:07,690 --> 00:03:11,590 If it is, it's only new in name. 62 00:03:11,590 --> 00:03:13,659 It's not new in teaching. 63 00:03:13,659 --> 00:03:19,007 But sometimes, new breaks forth 64 00:03:19,007 --> 00:03:21,260 from the old in a good way. 65 00:03:21,260 --> 00:03:24,559 Like for instance, I remember reading 66 00:03:24,559 --> 00:03:29,839 about the first Great Awakening. 67 00:03:29,839 --> 00:03:33,241 Sam Waldron has written a book 68 00:03:33,241 --> 00:03:37,249 on the history of Baptists in America. 69 00:03:37,249 --> 00:03:40,048 And one of the points he makes is this: 70 00:03:40,048 --> 00:03:43,912 after the first Great Awakening, 71 00:03:43,912 --> 00:03:50,540 every major denomination in this country split. 72 00:03:50,540 --> 00:03:52,642 And what he said was 73 00:03:52,642 --> 00:03:55,009 almost every denomination 74 00:03:55,009 --> 00:03:57,418 produced a new movement 75 00:03:57,418 --> 00:03:59,870 because the living - 76 00:03:59,870 --> 00:04:02,840 those that were born again during this revival - 77 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,459 couldn't stay with the old, dead religion. 78 00:04:05,459 --> 00:04:09,649 And so the new thing was actually the old thing. 79 00:04:09,649 --> 00:04:13,409 I mean, it was the faith once for all delivered. 80 00:04:13,409 --> 00:04:15,779 They were embracing. They were alive. 81 00:04:15,779 --> 00:04:19,420 And they were breaking forth from the dead. 82 00:04:19,420 --> 00:04:26,430 But, sometimes the new movement is false. 83 00:04:26,430 --> 00:04:30,140 But here's what you always want to look at. 84 00:04:30,140 --> 00:04:33,382 What do they say about Scripture? 85 00:04:33,382 --> 00:04:36,278 And what is their actual practice 86 00:04:36,278 --> 00:04:38,120 with regards to Scripture? 87 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,990 You could say one thing and do another thing. 88 00:04:40,990 --> 00:04:42,881 But listen to what they say 89 00:04:42,881 --> 00:04:45,319 and watch what they do with Scripture. 90 00:04:45,319 --> 00:04:47,400 That's the first thing. 91 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,700 And here's the thing, 92 00:04:49,700 --> 00:04:52,879 you can say: 93 00:04:52,879 --> 00:04:58,848 Oh yeah, we highly esteem the Bible. 94 00:04:58,848 --> 00:05:00,059 You can say it. 95 00:05:00,059 --> 00:05:02,250 Like Catholics will say it today. 96 00:05:02,250 --> 00:05:03,799 But look at their history. 97 00:05:03,799 --> 00:05:06,798 They killed people who printed Scriptures. 98 00:05:06,798 --> 00:05:08,891 And believe me, the only reason 99 00:05:08,891 --> 00:05:10,070 that they've changed now 100 00:05:10,070 --> 00:05:12,049 is because it's not politically correct 101 00:05:12,049 --> 00:05:14,460 to kill people who have Bibles. 102 00:05:14,460 --> 00:05:16,450 And they know it. 103 00:05:16,450 --> 00:05:17,940 But you watch what they do. 104 00:05:17,940 --> 00:05:19,369 And just because they say: 105 00:05:19,369 --> 00:05:22,069 we uphold the Scriptures - 106 00:05:22,069 --> 00:05:23,349 if you come along and say, 107 00:05:23,349 --> 00:05:25,320 but what the Pope says trumps that, 108 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:26,900 then what you're really saying is 109 00:05:26,900 --> 00:05:28,262 there's a higher authority 110 00:05:28,262 --> 00:05:30,048 and you're not really saying 111 00:05:30,048 --> 00:05:32,930 that Scripture is sufficient. 112 00:05:32,930 --> 00:05:35,479 And then the next thing is this: 113 00:05:35,479 --> 00:05:38,081 Listen to what they say 114 00:05:38,081 --> 00:05:43,650 about what Christ did on the cross. 115 00:05:43,650 --> 00:05:46,338 Watch what they say about Him, His person, 116 00:05:46,338 --> 00:05:49,950 and watch what they do with the cross. 117 00:05:49,950 --> 00:05:56,061 And again, it's not just theologically 118 00:05:56,061 --> 00:05:58,900 if you sit down with one of their leaders 119 00:05:58,900 --> 00:06:01,000 and ask them to tell you. 120 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,668 It's the thrust of what they preach. 121 00:06:03,668 --> 00:06:05,169 Listen to them. 122 00:06:05,169 --> 00:06:07,541 You can say sometimes: 123 00:06:07,541 --> 00:06:09,950 Well, yes, we believe that Jesus died on the cross. 124 00:06:09,950 --> 00:06:11,449 And we believe He died for sinners. 125 00:06:11,449 --> 00:06:13,251 But it's not in their message. 126 00:06:13,251 --> 00:06:15,949 You listen to their message and you're not hearing it. 127 00:06:15,949 --> 00:06:18,848 They're not preaching justification. 128 00:06:18,848 --> 00:06:21,261 Listen, there's a lot of circles out there, 129 00:06:21,261 --> 00:06:23,471 I listened to one on the radio the other day, 130 00:06:23,471 --> 00:06:25,860 and the guy seemed to me - 131 00:06:25,860 --> 00:06:28,837 now I wasn't carefully listening to his whole message - 132 00:06:28,837 --> 00:06:33,490 it seemed to me that he was very strongly emphasizing 133 00:06:33,490 --> 00:06:37,661 that you needed to live right 134 00:06:37,661 --> 00:06:42,200 in order to be saved. 135 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,773 We want to listen for the doctrine 136 00:06:44,773 --> 00:06:47,539 of justification by faith 137 00:06:47,539 --> 00:06:52,469 in these merits of Jesus Christ on the cross. 138 00:06:52,469 --> 00:06:54,479 So look for those two things. 139 00:06:54,479 --> 00:06:55,640 You don't need to know, 140 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,308 you don't need to go out and study 141 00:06:57,308 --> 00:06:59,051 about the New Apostolic Reformation 142 00:06:59,051 --> 00:07:01,119 or any of the other new movements. 143 00:07:01,119 --> 00:07:04,280 Sometimes, you know you get lots of guys, 144 00:07:04,280 --> 00:07:05,809 they like to go through college, 145 00:07:05,809 --> 00:07:07,741 and they're in college and studying up: 146 00:07:07,741 --> 00:07:10,288 "What's your position on this?" "What's your position on that?" 147 00:07:10,288 --> 00:07:12,615 You know what? 148 00:07:12,615 --> 00:07:14,557 What they really need to be doing 149 00:07:14,557 --> 00:07:15,759 is reading their Bibles. 150 00:07:15,759 --> 00:07:17,359 They need to read their Bibles 151 00:07:17,359 --> 00:07:21,391 over and over and over and over again. 152 00:07:21,391 --> 00:07:23,269 Because what we need to be 153 00:07:23,269 --> 00:07:25,150 is really we need to be like the FBI 154 00:07:25,150 --> 00:07:27,971 when it comes to their training 155 00:07:27,971 --> 00:07:33,868 of their agents that are all involved in counterfeit money. 156 00:07:33,868 --> 00:07:35,739 I mean, many of you have heard before, 157 00:07:35,739 --> 00:07:39,828 they don't train them in all the counterfeit types. 158 00:07:39,828 --> 00:07:43,309 They train them in the true currency. 159 00:07:43,309 --> 00:07:45,958 They have them so acquainted and familiar 160 00:07:45,958 --> 00:07:48,197 with the true currency 161 00:07:48,197 --> 00:07:50,349 that when they come across something false, 162 00:07:50,349 --> 00:07:53,048 deceptive, altered, counterfeit, 163 00:07:53,048 --> 00:07:55,769 they're able to recognize it. 164 00:07:55,769 --> 00:08:00,609 I can't emphasize this enough. 165 00:08:00,609 --> 00:08:03,180 We need to be people of this Book. 166 00:08:03,180 --> 00:08:04,549 We need to know this Book. 167 00:08:04,549 --> 00:08:05,829 We need to read this Book. 168 00:08:05,829 --> 00:08:07,439 We need to read this Book a lot. 169 00:08:07,439 --> 00:08:09,349 We need to read it from cover to cover. 170 00:08:09,349 --> 00:08:11,378 Even through the parts that you may think 171 00:08:11,378 --> 00:08:12,578 at first are difficult. 172 00:08:12,578 --> 00:08:14,558 Leviticus - read it. 173 00:08:14,558 --> 00:08:18,321 You need to know Scripture from end to end. 174 00:08:18,321 --> 00:08:20,150 That's our safety. 175 00:08:20,150 --> 00:08:21,248 It's Scripture. 176 00:08:21,248 --> 00:08:22,949 Remember, Jesus Christ, 177 00:08:22,949 --> 00:08:24,989 when He came face to face with the devil - 178 00:08:24,989 --> 00:08:29,679 and the devil's behind these false religions - 179 00:08:29,679 --> 00:08:32,479 and what was Jesus able to do? 180 00:08:32,479 --> 00:08:34,967 He was able to quote Scripture three times. 181 00:08:34,967 --> 00:08:39,530 Now He was out there being tempted for 40 days. 182 00:08:39,530 --> 00:08:43,250 Very likely, He did that for 40 days. 183 00:08:43,250 --> 00:08:45,569 You just have three of them. 184 00:08:45,569 --> 00:08:48,750 But He likely was out there answering the devil 185 00:08:48,750 --> 00:08:50,368 every single time. 186 00:08:50,368 --> 00:08:53,147 Look, we know that he's the tempter. 187 00:08:53,147 --> 00:08:54,570 If we're going to be tempted, 188 00:08:54,570 --> 00:08:56,241 then we're going to have to answer him 189 00:08:56,241 --> 00:08:57,319 just like the Lord did, 190 00:08:57,319 --> 00:08:58,671 and you'll have no answer for him 191 00:08:58,671 --> 00:09:00,309 if you don't know your Bibles. 192 00:09:00,309 --> 00:09:01,829 You've got to know your Bibles. 193 00:09:01,829 --> 00:09:03,680 You've got to know how to apply your Bibles. 194 00:09:03,680 --> 00:09:04,818 You've got to be Berean. 195 00:09:04,818 --> 00:09:06,461 You've got to know how to search 196 00:09:06,461 --> 00:09:07,628 what people say. 197 00:09:07,628 --> 00:09:12,327 (incomplete thought). 198 00:09:12,327 --> 00:09:15,640 You should really be striving 199 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,348 to be studying all the time. 200 00:09:17,348 --> 00:09:19,889 Study some books very meticulously. 201 00:09:19,889 --> 00:09:21,688 Read books over and over and over. 202 00:09:21,688 --> 00:09:24,001 Read your whole Bible end to end. 203 00:09:24,001 --> 00:09:25,920 There's lots of different ways to do it, 204 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:27,870 but just be in it. Be in it daily. 205 00:09:27,870 --> 00:09:30,220 There's no excuse not to be in it daily. 206 00:09:30,220 --> 00:09:31,641 We don't live by bread alone, 207 00:09:31,641 --> 00:09:33,988 we live by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God. 208 00:09:33,988 --> 00:09:36,950 You've got to be in the Word. 209 00:09:36,950 --> 00:09:39,318 If our minds are going to dwell 210 00:09:39,318 --> 00:09:40,730 on the things above, 211 00:09:40,730 --> 00:09:42,061 well, where do you see that? 212 00:09:42,061 --> 00:09:43,139 Where do you find that? 213 00:09:43,139 --> 00:09:44,259 It's in that Book. 214 00:09:44,259 --> 00:09:47,549 If your mind is going to be renewed - 215 00:09:47,549 --> 00:09:50,580 which that's what it's supposed to be - 216 00:09:50,580 --> 00:09:51,643 and how? 217 00:09:51,643 --> 00:09:52,999 Right there in Romans 12 218 00:09:52,999 --> 00:09:55,460 where it's talking about the renewal of the mind, 219 00:09:55,460 --> 00:09:59,487 it's got to do with knowing the will of God. 220 00:09:59,487 --> 00:10:01,467 Where do you find the will of God? 221 00:10:01,467 --> 00:10:03,148 It's not just in your conscience. 222 00:10:03,148 --> 00:10:05,639 It's not in your opinions. It's not in your whims. 223 00:10:05,639 --> 00:10:07,018 The conscience is good, 224 00:10:07,018 --> 00:10:09,657 but the conscience has to be enlightened. 225 00:10:09,657 --> 00:10:11,328 Your conscience needs to operate 226 00:10:11,328 --> 00:10:13,268 based on Scripture. 227 00:10:13,268 --> 00:10:16,580 It's needs to be enlightened by Scripture. 228 00:10:16,580 --> 00:10:18,649 Listen, this is so important 229 00:10:18,649 --> 00:10:21,659 because what happens is if you're reading the Scriptures every day, 230 00:10:21,659 --> 00:10:24,528 what you're doing is you're putting that Word in your thoughts. 231 00:10:24,528 --> 00:10:28,318 When the Scripture says: "set your mind," 232 00:10:28,318 --> 00:10:33,907 you need to put your mind where Scripture is. 233 00:10:33,907 --> 00:10:36,817 We read in Scripture about setting the mind on things above. 234 00:10:36,817 --> 00:10:38,529 We read in Scripture about setting the mind 235 00:10:38,529 --> 00:10:40,069 on the things of the Spirit. 236 00:10:40,069 --> 00:10:41,408 How are you going to do it? 237 00:10:41,408 --> 00:10:42,648 Those are the things of the Spirit. 238 00:10:42,648 --> 00:10:45,848 That Book is inspired by the Spirit. 239 00:10:45,848 --> 00:10:48,597 This is critical. 240 00:10:48,597 --> 00:10:51,878 You don't need to read about every new thing. 241 00:10:51,878 --> 00:10:53,547 You don't need to grab every new book. 242 00:10:53,547 --> 00:10:55,169 You don't need to be up on them. 243 00:10:55,169 --> 00:10:56,380 Because here's the thing, 244 00:10:56,380 --> 00:10:58,757 as soon as you read what somebody says - 245 00:10:58,757 --> 00:11:01,079 we were dealing in the theology class 246 00:11:01,079 --> 00:11:03,459 about some of the errors 247 00:11:03,459 --> 00:11:05,570 that John Piper was confronting 248 00:11:05,570 --> 00:11:07,549 concerning justification, 249 00:11:07,549 --> 00:11:08,997 and it was interesting. 250 00:11:08,997 --> 00:11:11,710 One of the books that I was quoting to the guys from, 251 00:11:11,710 --> 00:11:13,219 it actually was footnoted 252 00:11:13,219 --> 00:11:15,270 that the guy holding to the error 253 00:11:15,270 --> 00:11:16,761 changed his position 254 00:11:16,761 --> 00:11:18,979 just from the time Piper talked to him 255 00:11:18,979 --> 00:11:20,689 to the time that the book went 256 00:11:20,689 --> 00:11:22,039 to the first printing. 257 00:11:22,039 --> 00:11:22,949 That's the thing. 258 00:11:22,949 --> 00:11:24,198 These guys are changing. 259 00:11:24,198 --> 00:11:25,891 And guys in these movements - 260 00:11:25,891 --> 00:11:28,012 you can talk to that guy over there, he believes one thing; 261 00:11:28,012 --> 00:11:30,560 talk to that guy over there, he believes another thing. 262 00:11:30,560 --> 00:11:33,519 Oftentimes, you can't even pin these guys down. 263 00:11:33,519 --> 00:11:35,598 People are scratching their head about 264 00:11:35,598 --> 00:11:36,739 the "new perspectives," 265 00:11:36,739 --> 00:11:40,179 because all the guys holding to the new perspectives on Paul, 266 00:11:40,179 --> 00:11:42,200 they were all believing different things. 267 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:43,499 You could never peg them. 268 00:11:43,499 --> 00:11:44,890 You couldn't pin them down. 269 00:11:44,890 --> 00:11:47,179 And then everybody's changing their positions. 270 00:11:47,179 --> 00:11:48,660 You'll just pull your hair out 271 00:11:48,660 --> 00:11:50,491 and run in circles forever and always 272 00:11:50,491 --> 00:11:54,309 if you're trying to study every false thing that's out there. 273 00:11:54,309 --> 00:11:55,430 Don't do that. 274 00:11:55,430 --> 00:11:59,561 Just you live in Scripture. 275 00:11:59,561 --> 00:12:01,879 Be like Bunyan where when they poke you, 276 00:12:01,879 --> 00:12:03,708 you bleed Scripture. 277 00:12:03,708 --> 00:12:07,199 I mean, you ought to be able to think Scripture. 278 00:12:07,199 --> 00:12:09,040 You know what was said of David. 279 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:10,809 He would lay on his bed at night 280 00:12:10,809 --> 00:12:12,148 and what would he be doing? 281 00:12:12,148 --> 00:12:13,529 Who is the blessed man? 282 00:12:13,529 --> 00:12:15,659 Who is that man in Psalm 1? 283 00:12:15,659 --> 00:12:18,971 Blessed is the man who walks not in the counsel of the wicked, 284 00:12:18,971 --> 00:12:22,232 nor stands in the way of sinners, nor sits in the seat of scoffers; 285 00:12:22,232 --> 00:12:26,250 but his delight is in the law of the Lord, and on his law he meditates day and night. 286 00:12:26,250 --> 00:12:27,151 Tim: That's it. 287 00:12:27,151 --> 00:12:30,998 Meditating upon it day and night. 288 00:12:30,998 --> 00:12:34,219 That's the righteous people of Scripture. 289 00:12:34,219 --> 00:12:38,422 And I know I'm talking to a number of people here that are in it. 290 00:12:38,422 --> 00:12:46,469 Don't ever sacrifice your time in the Word. 291 00:12:46,469 --> 00:12:48,749 In all of the things that you give yourself to 292 00:12:48,749 --> 00:12:50,279 and prioritize in your life, 293 00:12:50,279 --> 00:13:00,180 make that number one. 294 00:13:00,180 --> 00:13:02,629 What time do we have?