1 00:00:04,661 --> 00:00:07,099 Okay. 2 00:00:07,099 --> 00:00:08,710 From Marvin, 3 00:00:08,710 --> 00:00:11,542 "Over the past year or so, 4 00:00:11,542 --> 00:00:15,480 I've been experiencing very weird dreams. 5 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,741 I've seen angelic figures 6 00:00:18,741 --> 00:00:21,289 and demonic ones as well. 7 00:00:21,289 --> 00:00:23,510 I can hardly understand it. 8 00:00:23,510 --> 00:00:25,909 Lately, I've seen very large snakes 9 00:00:25,909 --> 00:00:28,169 in my dreams too. 10 00:00:28,169 --> 00:00:30,700 What's your say on these? 11 00:00:30,700 --> 00:00:33,498 Should I be worried? 12 00:00:33,498 --> 00:00:35,564 Am I getting some sort of message 13 00:00:35,564 --> 00:00:37,950 from the supernatural world? 14 00:00:37,950 --> 00:00:39,300 What exactly is this 15 00:00:39,300 --> 00:00:44,159 and what should I do besides pray?" 16 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:48,840 Now, this one almost seems like 17 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:54,660 maybe we should just deal with Marvin 18 00:00:54,660 --> 00:00:59,338 as to where he's at spiritually. 19 00:00:59,338 --> 00:01:01,110 And I wouldn't argue with that, 20 00:01:01,110 --> 00:01:04,459 but because the subject is dreams, 21 00:01:04,459 --> 00:01:10,421 and I know that in the church realm, 22 00:01:10,421 --> 00:01:12,379 dreams come up. 23 00:01:12,379 --> 00:01:13,829 People talk about dreams 24 00:01:13,829 --> 00:01:15,880 and people have dreams. 25 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:20,530 I've been asked or I've heard 26 00:01:20,530 --> 00:01:23,860 somebody say that they had a certain dream. 27 00:01:23,860 --> 00:01:25,531 There are people in our church 28 00:01:25,531 --> 00:01:28,051 that will talk about dreams. 29 00:01:28,051 --> 00:01:33,401 And so let's just think scripturally. 30 00:01:33,401 --> 00:01:38,371 Does God ever give a dream? 31 00:01:38,371 --> 00:01:40,720 It's from Him - not satanic, 32 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,357 it's God giving the dream 33 00:01:43,357 --> 00:01:46,056 because God means to communicate 34 00:01:46,056 --> 00:01:48,205 something to an individual. 35 00:01:48,205 --> 00:01:50,564 Does that ever happen? 36 00:01:50,564 --> 00:01:52,996 Old Testament? 37 00:01:52,996 --> 00:01:55,806 Old Testament and New Testament? 38 00:01:55,806 --> 00:01:56,646 Okay. 39 00:01:56,646 --> 00:01:58,936 So all through the Bible, 40 00:01:58,936 --> 00:02:04,207 we can find examples of God giving dreams. 41 00:02:04,207 --> 00:02:07,304 It's a God-given dream 42 00:02:07,304 --> 00:02:12,377 that communicates some kind of prophecy, 43 00:02:12,377 --> 00:02:15,096 some kind of warning, 44 00:02:15,096 --> 00:02:19,396 some kind of message. 45 00:02:19,396 --> 00:02:21,097 Give me some examples. 46 00:02:21,097 --> 00:02:23,727 Good - by good, 47 00:02:23,727 --> 00:02:26,814 I don't mean that when interpreted 48 00:02:26,814 --> 00:02:30,206 it actually sounded like great news, 49 00:02:30,206 --> 00:02:31,977 but they're good in the sense 50 00:02:31,977 --> 00:02:33,487 that they're God-given. 51 00:02:33,487 --> 00:02:34,746 Give me some examples. 52 00:02:34,746 --> 00:02:35,898 Old and New. 53 00:02:35,898 --> 00:02:40,523 (unintelligible) 54 00:02:40,523 --> 00:02:42,275 Pharaoh. 55 00:02:42,275 --> 00:02:44,607 Joseph interpreted for him. 56 00:02:44,607 --> 00:02:49,286 Yes, you had the cows, 57 00:02:49,286 --> 00:02:53,317 you had the corn stalks or wheat stalks, 58 00:02:53,317 --> 00:02:57,856 seven years, seven years. 59 00:02:57,856 --> 00:02:59,316 There's two Joseph's actually 60 00:02:59,316 --> 00:03:02,176 in the Bible that were pretty prominent 61 00:03:02,176 --> 00:03:03,837 with dreams. 62 00:03:03,837 --> 00:03:05,626 You had Joseph in the Old Testament 63 00:03:05,626 --> 00:03:07,607 and Joseph the husband of Mary 64 00:03:07,607 --> 00:03:09,608 in the New Testament. 65 00:03:09,608 --> 00:03:12,128 Very often, the Joseph in the New Testament 66 00:03:12,128 --> 00:03:17,075 was receiving dreams concerning what he should do 67 00:03:17,075 --> 00:03:19,428 as far as escaping Herod 68 00:03:19,428 --> 00:03:21,095 by going down to Egypt, 69 00:03:21,095 --> 00:03:22,348 when to come back, 70 00:03:22,348 --> 00:03:25,245 even taking Mary for his wife. 71 00:03:25,245 --> 00:03:27,485 God was very consistently speaking 72 00:03:27,485 --> 00:03:30,468 to Joseph the husband of Mary 73 00:03:30,468 --> 00:03:33,546 by way of dreams. 74 00:03:33,546 --> 00:03:36,166 Can anybody think of any other place 75 00:03:36,166 --> 00:03:37,587 in the Old Testament 76 00:03:37,587 --> 00:03:40,127 where dreams are fairly significant? 77 00:03:40,127 --> 00:03:43,587 (unintelligible) 78 00:03:43,587 --> 00:03:48,375 Jacob's ladder actually is a dream. 79 00:03:48,375 --> 00:03:51,677 And it says so specifically. 80 00:03:51,677 --> 00:03:53,047 Somebody said Daniel. 81 00:03:53,047 --> 00:03:55,107 Daniel was interpreting. 82 00:03:55,107 --> 00:04:00,405 He interpreted two dreams for Nebuchadnezzar. 83 00:04:00,405 --> 00:04:05,286 Can you think of any other dreams? 84 00:04:05,286 --> 00:04:07,677 You were talking about Jacob. 85 00:04:07,677 --> 00:04:09,156 Whoever mentioned Jacob, 86 00:04:09,156 --> 00:04:10,716 I don't know if that was exactly 87 00:04:10,716 --> 00:04:12,540 talking about Jacob's ladder. 88 00:04:12,540 --> 00:04:14,337 You know he had another dream. 89 00:04:14,337 --> 00:04:16,096 He had a dream about you remember 90 00:04:16,096 --> 00:04:21,506 when he made the deal with Laban 91 00:04:21,506 --> 00:04:23,607 that he would only take the striped 92 00:04:23,607 --> 00:04:30,227 and the spotted and the mottled sheep and goats? 93 00:04:30,227 --> 00:04:34,827 And God actually gave him a dream. 94 00:04:34,827 --> 00:04:38,359 And maybe that's how he knew that he should choose those. 95 00:04:38,359 --> 00:04:39,946 But you remember what he did. 96 00:04:39,946 --> 00:04:41,315 He took those sticks 97 00:04:41,315 --> 00:04:43,628 and he put stripes in them 98 00:04:43,628 --> 00:04:48,795 and he kind of held them up. 99 00:04:48,795 --> 00:04:51,645 But other dreams - can you think of others? 100 00:04:51,645 --> 00:04:52,806 What's that? 101 00:04:52,806 --> 00:04:55,886 (unintelligible) 102 00:04:55,886 --> 00:04:58,846 God said don't say anything to him good or bad. 103 00:04:58,846 --> 00:05:00,826 Don't do any harm to him. 104 00:05:00,826 --> 00:05:03,244 Abimelech - do you remember the guy Abimelech? 105 00:05:03,244 --> 00:05:05,545 He was like a Philistine king 106 00:05:05,545 --> 00:05:07,274 and he had taken Sarah. 107 00:05:07,274 --> 00:05:08,696 And he had a dream 108 00:05:08,696 --> 00:05:11,245 that said you're a dead man. 109 00:05:11,245 --> 00:05:13,302 And he said, "Lord, I did this 110 00:05:13,302 --> 00:05:14,864 in the innocence of my heart." 111 00:05:14,864 --> 00:05:16,956 And he had another dream and God came to him 112 00:05:16,956 --> 00:05:20,606 and said, "I know you did." 113 00:05:20,606 --> 00:05:22,915 Anyway, okay, good dreams. 114 00:05:22,915 --> 00:05:25,825 Yes, there are God-given dreams. 115 00:05:25,825 --> 00:05:28,946 There are good dreams. 116 00:05:28,946 --> 00:05:30,574 Can you think of anywhere else 117 00:05:30,574 --> 00:05:32,407 in the New Testament specifically, 118 00:05:32,407 --> 00:05:35,086 maybe not where you have specific examples of dreams, 119 00:05:35,086 --> 00:05:37,297 but where dreams themselves are talked about 120 00:05:37,297 --> 00:05:38,847 in a good way? 121 00:05:38,847 --> 00:05:39,925 (unintelligible) 122 00:05:39,925 --> 00:05:41,365 Pentecost. 123 00:05:41,365 --> 00:05:45,865 Basically, the fulfillment of Joel 2. 124 00:05:45,865 --> 00:05:48,406 Who is going to dream dreams? 125 00:05:48,406 --> 00:05:51,626 (from the room) young men? 126 00:05:51,626 --> 00:05:54,832 The who? 127 00:05:54,832 --> 00:05:56,942 Doesn't it say the old men? 128 00:05:56,942 --> 00:05:59,041 James: The old men shall dream dreams. 129 00:05:59,041 --> 00:06:02,583 Tim: Yeah, the old men are going to dream dreams. 130 00:06:02,583 --> 00:06:05,200 So, that's good. 131 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,832 The Spirit moves - good dreams. 132 00:06:08,832 --> 00:06:13,253 How about examples of bad dreams? 133 00:06:13,253 --> 00:06:15,740 And by bad dreams, I mean people 134 00:06:15,740 --> 00:06:17,571 that refer to their dreams 135 00:06:17,571 --> 00:06:19,302 as having come from God, 136 00:06:19,302 --> 00:06:21,780 but the reality is they don't come from God, 137 00:06:21,780 --> 00:06:23,661 and the only reason they're saying 138 00:06:23,661 --> 00:06:25,140 that they had dreams from God 139 00:06:25,140 --> 00:06:29,150 is so they can set forth their lies. 140 00:06:29,150 --> 00:06:31,579 (unintelligible) 141 00:06:31,579 --> 00:06:32,849 (from the room) 142 00:06:32,849 --> 00:06:37,281 When Job's first friend is talking to him... 143 00:06:37,281 --> 00:06:40,651 (unintelligible) 144 00:06:40,651 --> 00:06:45,281 Tim: (incomplete thought) 145 00:06:45,281 --> 00:06:49,042 I think that that is not necessarily a dream. 146 00:06:49,042 --> 00:06:51,710 I think that may be something demonic. 147 00:06:51,710 --> 00:06:52,869 (unintelligible) 148 00:06:52,869 --> 00:06:54,595 Yeah, I'm not sure that's a dream. 149 00:06:54,595 --> 00:06:56,509 (unintelligible) 150 00:06:56,509 --> 00:06:57,710 Jude. 151 00:06:57,710 --> 00:06:58,829 (from the room) 152 00:06:58,829 --> 00:07:00,720 These people were false prophets. 153 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:02,318 It gives a long description, 154 00:07:02,318 --> 00:07:04,970 but it says they're relying on their dreams. 155 00:07:04,970 --> 00:07:08,198 Tim: They're relying on their dreams. 156 00:07:08,198 --> 00:07:09,059 Right. 157 00:07:09,059 --> 00:07:10,390 Can you think of some place 158 00:07:10,390 --> 00:07:11,819 that talks about them relying 159 00:07:11,819 --> 00:07:13,419 on their visions? 160 00:07:13,419 --> 00:07:16,830 (from the room) 161 00:07:16,830 --> 00:07:18,890 Like when that man went to go confront 162 00:07:18,890 --> 00:07:20,475 King Jeroboam. 163 00:07:20,475 --> 00:07:24,070 (unintelligible) 164 00:07:24,070 --> 00:07:25,270 He preached against it 165 00:07:25,270 --> 00:07:27,090 and God said go back the way you came. 166 00:07:27,090 --> 00:07:31,188 The old prophet said an angel told me 167 00:07:31,188 --> 00:07:34,529 that you can come back with me. 168 00:07:34,529 --> 00:07:37,109 Tim: Well, I don't think that's a good example 169 00:07:37,109 --> 00:07:39,209 because he just basically made it up 170 00:07:39,209 --> 00:07:40,541 (incomplete thought). 171 00:07:40,541 --> 00:07:42,179 But I mean in the New Testament, 172 00:07:42,179 --> 00:07:43,911 is there some place you can think of 173 00:07:43,911 --> 00:07:47,950 where it talks about relying on visions? 174 00:07:47,950 --> 00:07:51,821 Being associated with false religion. 175 00:07:51,821 --> 00:07:53,839 (from the room): Revelation, right? 176 00:07:53,839 --> 00:07:56,590 Tim: I'm thinking specifically of Colossians. 177 00:07:56,590 --> 00:08:00,449 (unintelligible) 178 00:08:00,449 --> 00:08:03,921 But okay, let's look at something here. 179 00:08:03,921 --> 00:08:06,500 Deuteronomy 13. 180 00:08:06,500 --> 00:08:09,569 Let's all go here. 181 00:08:09,569 --> 00:08:12,022 Fifth book in the Bible. 182 00:08:12,022 --> 00:08:21,961 Deuteronomy 13:1, 183 00:08:21,961 --> 00:08:28,609 "If a prophet or a dreamer of dreams 184 00:08:28,609 --> 00:08:30,178 arises among you and gives you 185 00:08:30,178 --> 00:08:31,790 a sign or a wonder..." 186 00:08:31,790 --> 00:08:34,279 So, here's the thing. 187 00:08:34,279 --> 00:08:38,991 God Himself is actually saying, 188 00:08:38,991 --> 00:08:42,052 when He says dreamer of dreams, 189 00:08:42,052 --> 00:08:44,732 you know what's interesting about this? 190 00:08:44,732 --> 00:08:46,402 Is He's not saying somebody 191 00:08:46,402 --> 00:08:49,739 that simply claims to have had a dream. 192 00:08:49,739 --> 00:08:53,300 He's actually saying a dreamer of dreams. 193 00:08:53,300 --> 00:08:54,770 My point here is this, 194 00:08:54,770 --> 00:08:57,800 you can actually have a dream 195 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:02,001 and be able to do some supernatural things 196 00:09:02,001 --> 00:09:07,530 and it not be from God. 197 00:09:07,530 --> 00:09:08,869 "He does a sign or a wonder 198 00:09:08,869 --> 00:09:11,830 that he tells you comes to pass, 199 00:09:11,830 --> 00:09:14,149 and if he says 'let us go after other gods,' 200 00:09:14,149 --> 00:09:15,350 which you have not known, 201 00:09:15,350 --> 00:09:16,609 'and let us serve them,' 202 00:09:16,609 --> 00:09:18,259 you shall not listen to the words 203 00:09:18,259 --> 00:09:20,459 of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams, 204 00:09:20,459 --> 00:09:22,240 for the Lord your God is testing you 205 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,248 to know whether you love the Lord your God 206 00:09:24,248 --> 00:09:26,929 with all your heart, with all your soul." 207 00:09:26,929 --> 00:09:32,071 So you see that reality. 208 00:09:32,071 --> 00:09:37,078 Go to Jeremiah 23. 209 00:09:37,078 --> 00:09:40,840 Jeremiah deals with this fairly extensively. 210 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:53,898 Jeremiah 23. 211 00:09:53,898 --> 00:09:59,481 Go down to verse 25. 212 00:09:59,481 --> 00:10:03,980 I like this because notice 213 00:10:03,980 --> 00:10:07,329 the direct comparison between dreams 214 00:10:07,329 --> 00:10:11,099 and the Word of God. 215 00:10:11,099 --> 00:10:13,560 Really today, that's what we're dealing with. 216 00:10:13,560 --> 00:10:16,550 People can talk about their dreams, 217 00:10:16,550 --> 00:10:20,540 but it's the Word of God that is firm. 218 00:10:20,540 --> 00:10:22,442 And in fact, it's the Word of God 219 00:10:22,442 --> 00:10:24,421 whereby those dreams 220 00:10:24,421 --> 00:10:25,669 need to be tested 221 00:10:25,669 --> 00:10:27,401 and the fruit of the individual 222 00:10:27,401 --> 00:10:29,609 claiming to have the dream 223 00:10:29,609 --> 00:10:31,208 is to be tested. 224 00:10:31,208 --> 00:10:34,352 If you go to 23:25, 225 00:10:34,352 --> 00:10:37,229 "I have heard what the prophets have said 226 00:10:37,229 --> 00:10:39,619 who prophesy lies in my name 227 00:10:39,619 --> 00:10:42,851 saying 'I have dreamed, I have dreamed.'" 228 00:10:42,851 --> 00:10:46,251 These guys are just liars. 229 00:10:46,251 --> 00:10:48,171 "How long shall there be lies 230 00:10:48,171 --> 00:10:49,622 in the hearts of the prophets 231 00:10:49,622 --> 00:10:51,471 who prophesy lies and who prophesy 232 00:10:51,471 --> 00:10:53,860 the deceit of their own heart, 233 00:10:53,860 --> 00:10:55,879 who think to make My people forget My name 234 00:10:55,879 --> 00:10:58,621 by their dreams that they tell one another 235 00:10:58,621 --> 00:11:05,119 even as their fathers forgot My name for Baal?" 236 00:11:05,119 --> 00:11:09,291 "Let the prophet who has a dream 237 00:11:09,291 --> 00:11:10,830 tell the dream. 238 00:11:10,830 --> 00:11:13,320 But let him who has My Word, 239 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,189 speak My Word faithfully." 240 00:11:15,189 --> 00:11:18,990 Isn't that interesting? There's the comparison. 241 00:11:18,990 --> 00:11:22,321 "What has straw in common with wheat?" 242 00:11:22,321 --> 00:11:23,969 It's like the difference between 243 00:11:23,969 --> 00:11:30,880 the dreamer and the man that has His Word. 244 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,481 Verse 29, "Is not My Word like fire 245 00:11:33,481 --> 00:11:35,490 declares the Lord, and like a hammer 246 00:11:35,490 --> 00:11:38,031 that breaks the rock in pieces?" 247 00:11:38,031 --> 00:11:39,568 Go down to v. 32, 248 00:11:39,568 --> 00:11:41,900 "Behold, I am against those who prophesy 249 00:11:41,900 --> 00:11:43,780 lying dreams declares the Lord, 250 00:11:43,780 --> 00:11:46,848 and who tell them and lead My people astray 251 00:11:46,848 --> 00:11:49,560 by their lies and their recklessness 252 00:11:49,560 --> 00:11:51,476 that I did not send them or charge them 253 00:11:51,476 --> 00:11:53,449 so they do not profit this people at all 254 00:11:53,449 --> 00:11:55,940 declares the Lord." 255 00:11:55,940 --> 00:12:01,940 Now, Kevin referenced the text in Jude, 256 00:12:01,940 --> 00:12:06,411 so I think maybe we'll finish on this one 257 00:12:06,411 --> 00:12:07,980 here in Jude, 258 00:12:07,980 --> 00:12:15,969 because I want to make some points. 259 00:12:15,969 --> 00:12:34,948 Jude. Right before Revelation. 260 00:12:34,948 --> 00:12:38,850 In verse 5, 261 00:12:38,850 --> 00:12:40,619 "I want to remind you 262 00:12:40,619 --> 00:12:43,071 although you once fully knew it, 263 00:12:43,071 --> 00:12:44,589 that Jesus who saved a people 264 00:12:44,589 --> 00:12:46,750 out of the land of Egypt afterward destroyed 265 00:12:46,750 --> 00:12:48,208 those who did not believe. 266 00:12:48,208 --> 00:12:50,019 The angels who did not stay within 267 00:12:50,019 --> 00:12:51,681 their own position of authority, 268 00:12:51,681 --> 00:12:53,901 but left their proper dwelling, 269 00:12:53,901 --> 00:12:55,579 He has kept in eternal chains 270 00:12:55,579 --> 00:12:56,809 under gloomy darkness 271 00:12:56,809 --> 00:12:58,749 until the judgment of the great day." 272 00:12:58,749 --> 00:13:01,050 So he's talking about judgment here 273 00:13:01,050 --> 00:13:03,620 and those who have come under His judgment. 274 00:13:03,620 --> 00:13:06,651 "Just as Sodom and Gomorrah 275 00:13:06,651 --> 00:13:08,440 and the surrounding cities 276 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:12,518 which likewise indulged in sexual immorality 277 00:13:12,518 --> 00:13:14,459 and pursued unnatural desires 278 00:13:14,459 --> 00:13:16,510 serve as an example..." 279 00:13:16,510 --> 00:13:20,062 An example to who? To us. 280 00:13:20,062 --> 00:13:23,031 "By undergoing a punishment of eternal fire." 281 00:13:23,031 --> 00:13:26,650 Look, sexual immorality - this is an example to us 282 00:13:26,650 --> 00:13:29,943 of what God will do to us 283 00:13:29,943 --> 00:13:33,789 if we are involved in sexual immorality. 284 00:13:33,789 --> 00:13:38,826 "Yet in like manner (notice this)... 285 00:13:38,826 --> 00:13:42,984 in like manner..." 286 00:13:42,984 --> 00:13:46,213 These people are like Sodom and Gomorrah. 287 00:13:46,213 --> 00:13:51,335 "In like manner, these people also 288 00:13:51,335 --> 00:13:55,494 relying on their dreams, 289 00:13:55,494 --> 00:13:59,294 they defile the flesh, reject authority, 290 00:13:59,294 --> 00:14:03,992 blaspheme the glorious ones." 291 00:14:03,992 --> 00:14:07,006 And I got to thinking about this 292 00:14:07,006 --> 00:14:19,375 that Marvin - he's experiencing dreams. 293 00:14:19,375 --> 00:14:21,869 I think what I would ask 294 00:14:21,869 --> 00:14:24,899 a young man like this 295 00:14:24,899 --> 00:14:30,868 is Jude is making a connection 296 00:14:30,868 --> 00:14:33,148 between the people 297 00:14:33,148 --> 00:14:38,696 who rely on their dreams 298 00:14:38,696 --> 00:14:41,459 and he's talking about Sodom and Gomorrah 299 00:14:41,459 --> 00:14:44,229 who's an example. 300 00:14:44,229 --> 00:14:46,520 And then he says "in like manner, 301 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:50,048 these people also relying on their dreams..." 302 00:14:50,048 --> 00:14:54,998 It's like he's weaving this together. 303 00:14:54,998 --> 00:15:00,310 A despising of authority 304 00:15:00,310 --> 00:15:03,789 and sexual immorality 305 00:15:03,789 --> 00:15:05,789 and relying on dreams 306 00:15:05,789 --> 00:15:08,949 and defiling the flesh. 307 00:15:08,949 --> 00:15:13,029 He's weaving this together - 308 00:15:13,029 --> 00:15:15,958 these people. 309 00:15:15,958 --> 00:15:18,010 And he says in v. 10, 310 00:15:18,010 --> 00:15:20,139 "They blaspheme all they do not understand. 311 00:15:20,139 --> 00:15:22,600 They're destroyed by all that they 312 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:26,536 like unreasoning animals understand instinctively. 313 00:15:26,536 --> 00:15:33,140 Woe to them." 314 00:15:33,140 --> 00:15:35,709 I can tell you this. 315 00:15:35,709 --> 00:15:43,358 When you find Joseph having dreams, 316 00:15:43,358 --> 00:15:47,799 what does Scripture say about Joseph's character? 317 00:15:47,799 --> 00:15:50,646 What sort of man was he? 318 00:15:50,646 --> 00:15:54,978 What does Scripture say about Daniel? 319 00:15:54,978 --> 00:15:57,719 What kind of man was he? 320 00:15:57,719 --> 00:15:59,020 What does Scripture say 321 00:15:59,020 --> 00:16:01,489 about the New Testament Joseph? 322 00:16:01,489 --> 00:16:03,669 The husband of Mary. 323 00:16:03,669 --> 00:16:07,267 What kind of man was he? 324 00:16:07,267 --> 00:16:13,050 You know, I think you want to tie these together. 325 00:16:13,050 --> 00:16:18,120 I would ask Marvin 326 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:21,419 about the connection with sexual immorality. 327 00:16:21,419 --> 00:16:23,200 I would ask him about his purity. 328 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,240 See, he's wanting to talk about dreams. 329 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:26,938 "Should I be afraid?" 330 00:16:26,938 --> 00:16:29,240 I would say this, 331 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,988 if there's sexual immorality in your life, 332 00:16:31,988 --> 00:16:34,329 it's because of that the wrath of God is coming 333 00:16:34,329 --> 00:16:36,768 and that's what you ought to be afraid of. 334 00:16:36,768 --> 00:16:42,868 Having a dream of snakes? 335 00:16:42,868 --> 00:16:46,610 Dreams - should we put stock in dreams? 336 00:16:46,610 --> 00:16:50,338 Should we guide our lives by dreams? 337 00:16:50,338 --> 00:16:52,843 I think you want to be very careful of dreams. 338 00:16:52,843 --> 00:16:55,212 Could God speak to a person through them? 339 00:16:55,212 --> 00:16:56,904 There's biblical examples, 340 00:16:56,904 --> 00:16:58,394 but I'll tell you this, 341 00:16:58,394 --> 00:17:00,663 just as much as there's biblical examples 342 00:17:00,663 --> 00:17:02,099 of God-given dreams 343 00:17:02,099 --> 00:17:05,493 directing righteous men, 344 00:17:05,493 --> 00:17:07,776 there's also a lot of warnings 345 00:17:07,776 --> 00:17:09,982 concerning rotten people 346 00:17:09,982 --> 00:17:13,924 and false prophets and evil people 347 00:17:13,924 --> 00:17:16,203 that have dreams, rely on dreams, 348 00:17:16,203 --> 00:17:20,844 want to talk about their dreams. 349 00:17:20,844 --> 00:17:23,732 Dreams - where can they come from? 350 00:17:23,732 --> 00:17:25,554 I mean, some people will tell you 351 00:17:25,554 --> 00:17:27,633 if they eat right before they go to bed, 352 00:17:27,633 --> 00:17:29,494 they have all sorts of horrible dreams 353 00:17:29,494 --> 00:17:31,044 or crazy dreams. 354 00:17:31,044 --> 00:17:32,682 That could be one thing. 355 00:17:32,682 --> 00:17:35,501 There could be natural causes as to why you dream. 356 00:17:35,501 --> 00:17:37,261 We're dreaming all the time, 357 00:17:37,261 --> 00:17:39,464 but why sometimes we remember more dreams, 358 00:17:39,464 --> 00:17:42,032 maybe it's got to do with whether we're in deep sleep 359 00:17:42,032 --> 00:17:43,704 or not so deep sleep. 360 00:17:43,704 --> 00:17:46,463 Could some dreams come from satanic causes? 361 00:17:46,463 --> 00:17:47,521 Undoubtedly. 362 00:17:47,521 --> 00:17:50,003 Could you have dreams about snakes? 363 00:17:50,003 --> 00:17:52,413 If you sat and watched a movie 364 00:17:52,413 --> 00:17:54,591 like one of these cannibal movies 365 00:17:54,591 --> 00:17:56,972 or zombie movies or something, 366 00:17:56,972 --> 00:18:01,105 would you think it might affect your dreams? 367 00:18:01,105 --> 00:18:03,760 You know, just an illicit lifestyle 368 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:05,702 could affect your dreams. 369 00:18:05,702 --> 00:18:07,892 What you read or think about 370 00:18:07,892 --> 00:18:09,881 or watch right before you go to bed 371 00:18:09,881 --> 00:18:12,952 may have a tremendous effect. 372 00:18:12,952 --> 00:18:15,362 I think the thing to ask 373 00:18:15,362 --> 00:18:17,783 with regards to these things 374 00:18:17,783 --> 00:18:21,054 is looking at the lifestyle. 375 00:18:21,054 --> 00:18:25,673 I think the question is 376 00:18:25,673 --> 00:18:34,272 concerning a young man and his life. 377 00:18:34,272 --> 00:18:36,523 Whether you're saved or not 378 00:18:36,523 --> 00:18:38,134 is the real issue. 379 00:18:38,134 --> 00:18:41,192 Not: should I be afraid 380 00:18:41,192 --> 00:18:44,874 because I have a dream about snakes? 381 00:18:44,874 --> 00:18:46,895 Well, the truth is I should be afraid 382 00:18:46,895 --> 00:18:48,064 if I'm lost. 383 00:18:48,064 --> 00:18:49,581 I should fear Him who can throw 384 00:18:49,581 --> 00:18:51,604 body and soul into hell. 385 00:18:51,604 --> 00:18:53,105 That's what I should fear. 386 00:18:53,105 --> 00:18:54,494 I mean, if I'm a Christian, 387 00:18:54,494 --> 00:18:56,684 and I have some crazy dream about snakes 388 00:18:56,684 --> 00:19:00,525 and it's a nightmare, I'm safe. 389 00:19:00,525 --> 00:19:02,912 If I'm lost and I have dreams about angels - 390 00:19:02,912 --> 00:19:06,206 when I was lost, I had a dream about Mary. 391 00:19:06,206 --> 00:19:10,443 Very comforting. 392 00:19:10,443 --> 00:19:15,164 I have a feeling that had devilishness about it. 393 00:19:15,164 --> 00:19:19,044 It gave me such thoughts of Mary that I never had - 394 00:19:19,044 --> 00:19:21,005 I was a nominal Catholic my whole life, 395 00:19:21,005 --> 00:19:23,224 but it gave me such thoughts about Mary 396 00:19:23,224 --> 00:19:28,144 that were warm. 397 00:19:28,144 --> 00:19:31,553 I felt something from that. 398 00:19:31,553 --> 00:19:32,964 But you know, you can have 399 00:19:32,964 --> 00:19:35,946 all sorts of nice feeling dreams 400 00:19:35,946 --> 00:19:38,002 and be lost and go to hell. 401 00:19:38,002 --> 00:19:39,874 You could have dreams about snakes 402 00:19:39,874 --> 00:19:42,104 and horrible things and go to Heaven. 403 00:19:42,104 --> 00:19:45,125 The nature of the dream isn't the thing. 404 00:19:45,125 --> 00:19:48,093 It's the character of the man 405 00:19:48,093 --> 00:19:53,084 that's the issue. 406 00:19:53,084 --> 00:19:54,435 Anything else? 407 00:19:54,435 --> 00:19:58,365 Anything anybody want to say about dreams? 408 00:19:58,365 --> 00:19:59,485 I would just say this, 409 00:19:59,485 --> 00:20:02,134 look, if you have somebody in the church 410 00:20:02,134 --> 00:20:05,986 that tells you that they had a premonition 411 00:20:05,986 --> 00:20:08,696 or an impression or a vision 412 00:20:08,696 --> 00:20:11,845 or a dream, 413 00:20:11,845 --> 00:20:13,574 I would just say this, 414 00:20:13,574 --> 00:20:17,584 be extremely careful 415 00:20:17,584 --> 00:20:21,654 that you not let somebody else's dream - 416 00:20:21,654 --> 00:20:24,274 here's one of the problems that I have. 417 00:20:24,274 --> 00:20:27,203 If God wants to communicate to me 418 00:20:27,203 --> 00:20:29,663 to take my son down to Egypt, 419 00:20:29,663 --> 00:20:32,124 I don't think He's going to give you a dream 420 00:20:32,124 --> 00:20:36,336 about me taking my son down to Egypt. 421 00:20:36,336 --> 00:20:38,355 He's going to give me a dream 422 00:20:38,355 --> 00:20:41,234 warning me that Herod wants to kill my child 423 00:20:41,234 --> 00:20:43,406 and so I should take him down to Egypt. 424 00:20:43,406 --> 00:20:44,993 I get very suspicious 425 00:20:44,993 --> 00:20:47,735 when you get third person people 426 00:20:47,735 --> 00:20:49,484 telling me they had a dream 427 00:20:49,484 --> 00:20:52,254 that I'm supposed to marry so-and-so. 428 00:20:52,254 --> 00:20:56,124 I would be extremely suspect 429 00:20:56,124 --> 00:20:58,444 of that kind of thing. 430 00:20:58,444 --> 00:20:59,734 Don't put weight in it. 431 00:20:59,734 --> 00:21:01,733 You will go wrong. 432 00:21:01,733 --> 00:21:04,062 What you want to put weight in 433 00:21:04,062 --> 00:21:07,036 is in the Word of God. 434 00:21:07,036 --> 00:21:08,764 You go to Proverbs 31. 435 00:21:08,764 --> 00:21:09,885 Study it out. 436 00:21:09,885 --> 00:21:12,805 Look at the character of a woman. 437 00:21:12,805 --> 00:21:16,872 Use that as your reference point. 438 00:21:16,872 --> 00:21:18,735 Just be very careful 439 00:21:18,735 --> 00:21:20,026 because there are people 440 00:21:20,026 --> 00:21:22,325 who even in good churches, 441 00:21:22,325 --> 00:21:24,215 people who will say: 442 00:21:24,215 --> 00:21:25,494 I had this dream. 443 00:21:25,494 --> 00:21:29,694 It was about you. 444 00:21:29,694 --> 00:21:32,765 It's almost like there's some meaning here. 445 00:21:32,765 --> 00:21:35,343 There's something you're supposed to know 446 00:21:35,343 --> 00:21:38,673 that's going to affect decisions you make in your life. 447 00:21:38,673 --> 00:21:41,385 (incomplete thought) 448 00:21:41,385 --> 00:21:43,655 Your antennas ought to go up 449 00:21:43,655 --> 00:21:46,116 and red flags ought to be waving all over 450 00:21:46,116 --> 00:21:54,018 when people tell you that. 451 00:21:54,018 --> 00:21:56,818 What time do we have? 452 00:21:56,818 --> 00:22:00,228 Okay, we've got time for one more. 453 00:22:00,228 --> 00:22:03,277 Anybody want to say anything about dreams? 454 00:22:03,277 --> 00:22:04,398 (from the room) 455 00:22:04,398 --> 00:22:13,287 (unintelligible) 456 00:22:13,287 --> 00:22:15,886 Matthew 24:24 - 457 00:22:15,886 --> 00:22:19,828 it says, "For there shall arise false christs 458 00:22:19,828 --> 00:22:22,005 and false prophets 459 00:22:22,005 --> 00:22:24,126 and shall show great signs and wonders, 460 00:22:24,126 --> 00:22:26,016 so much that if it were possible, 461 00:22:26,016 --> 00:22:32,017 they shall deceive the very elect." 462 00:22:32,017 --> 00:22:40,916 Tim: Right. 463 00:22:40,916 --> 00:22:44,456 If possible, they would deceive the very elect. 464 00:22:44,456 --> 00:22:47,996 But it's not possible for the elect to be deceived. 465 00:22:47,996 --> 00:22:52,657 At least, not deceived damnably.