1 00:00:09,809 --> 00:00:13,434 As you are all well aware, 2 00:00:13,434 --> 00:00:18,534 there are only really two religions 3 00:00:18,534 --> 00:00:23,034 on the face of this earth. 4 00:00:23,034 --> 00:00:28,015 (Aside) Don't you have a shirt that says 5 00:00:28,015 --> 00:00:32,685 Christianity is not a religion? 6 00:00:32,685 --> 00:00:36,299 Religion in years past was not 7 00:00:36,299 --> 00:00:39,889 the negative and derogatory term that it is today, 8 00:00:39,889 --> 00:00:42,559 so I almost hesitate to call Christianity [that]. 9 00:00:42,589 --> 00:00:44,962 But you know what we're talking about, 10 00:00:44,962 --> 00:00:46,992 there are really only basically 11 00:00:46,992 --> 00:00:48,942 two basic religions that exist, 12 00:00:48,942 --> 00:00:50,589 that have ever really existed. 13 00:00:50,589 --> 00:00:53,214 One is divine accomplishment: 14 00:00:53,214 --> 00:00:59,144 God provides for everything man needs to be saved. 15 00:00:59,144 --> 00:01:04,402 Over against all the religions of human works 16 00:01:04,402 --> 00:01:08,902 that basically say I must do something to merit God's favor. 17 00:01:08,902 --> 00:01:11,115 And everything I just described, 18 00:01:11,115 --> 00:01:14,375 whether it's Catholicism, Mormonism, Jehovah's Witnesses, 19 00:01:14,375 --> 00:01:17,083 Islam, and go down the line... 20 00:01:17,083 --> 00:01:19,483 Hinduism, Buddhism... 21 00:01:19,483 --> 00:01:24,090 they fall into this category of human works. 22 00:01:24,090 --> 00:01:31,399 Now I realize among those religions 23 00:01:31,399 --> 00:01:34,939 that fall into that category, 24 00:01:34,939 --> 00:01:42,649 some speak more highly of Christ than others. 25 00:01:42,649 --> 00:01:44,770 They don't honor Him, 26 00:01:44,770 --> 00:01:51,530 they just are not as derogatory towards Him as, say, Islam is. 27 00:01:51,530 --> 00:01:54,501 Catholicism will actually say some things 28 00:01:54,501 --> 00:01:57,831 that we would agree with, right? 29 00:01:57,831 --> 00:02:00,329 They would claim He's God. 30 00:02:00,329 --> 00:02:04,439 The problem is they make Mary out 31 00:02:04,439 --> 00:02:07,999 as the one who did what He did. 32 00:02:07,999 --> 00:02:09,699 So they really dishonor Him. 33 00:02:09,699 --> 00:02:11,568 They do great disservice to Him. 34 00:02:11,568 --> 00:02:16,017 But can a true Christian continue as a Mormon? 35 00:02:16,017 --> 00:02:20,974 I would say to James, here's his actual question: 36 00:02:20,974 --> 00:02:23,390 Pastor Tim, I'm a member 37 00:02:23,390 --> 00:02:28,740 of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Mormon) 38 00:02:28,740 --> 00:02:31,084 who has recently come to know the Lord. 39 00:02:31,084 --> 00:02:32,924 I'm wondering if it's possible to 40 00:02:32,924 --> 00:02:36,337 still remain as an active member of this organization 41 00:02:36,337 --> 00:02:42,087 while having had the born again experience. Thank you. 42 00:02:42,087 --> 00:02:45,248 So help me out, guys. You answer it. 43 00:02:45,248 --> 00:02:47,907 Can he stay? (responses from the room) 44 00:02:47,907 --> 00:02:50,907 There's the question, right there. 45 00:02:50,907 --> 00:02:53,423 That's exactly where my mind went. 46 00:02:53,423 --> 00:02:59,734 Why would you want to? 47 00:02:59,734 --> 00:03:03,727 I don't know and he doesn't say. 48 00:03:03,727 --> 00:03:09,202 But I can tell you this, typically in Mormonism, 49 00:03:09,202 --> 00:03:18,959 in Catholicism, in Islam, there are strong families. Exactly. 50 00:03:18,959 --> 00:03:24,103 Typically, the reason you want to stay in a system 51 00:03:24,103 --> 00:03:28,673 that does not line up with true Christianity 52 00:03:28,673 --> 00:03:32,497 is because you're trying to please somebody. 53 00:03:32,497 --> 00:03:35,328 You're not wanting to suffer 54 00:03:35,328 --> 00:03:40,258 the consequences of having come to Christ. 55 00:03:40,258 --> 00:03:46,360 Listen: Revelation 18:2, 56 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,880 "And he called out with a mighty voice, 57 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,790 'fallen, fallen is Babylon the Great." 58 00:03:52,790 --> 00:03:55,449 Let me say something to you, in the book of Revelation, 59 00:03:55,449 --> 00:03:58,549 do you know who Babylon the Great is? 60 00:03:58,549 --> 00:04:03,868 Do you remember that picture of a whore; 61 00:04:03,868 --> 00:04:11,838 what was she riding on? 62 00:04:11,838 --> 00:04:23,169 A beast? And it was called something, 63 00:04:23,169 --> 00:04:27,799 but the term Babylon is used. 64 00:04:27,799 --> 00:04:29,927 Folks, let me tell you something. 65 00:04:29,927 --> 00:04:32,667 A very symbolic book; 66 00:04:32,667 --> 00:04:38,307 what is the church described as? 67 00:04:38,307 --> 00:04:43,356 A bride. The bride of Christ. 68 00:04:43,356 --> 00:04:46,976 False religion is a whore. 69 00:04:46,976 --> 00:04:49,976 False religion is an adulteress. 70 00:04:49,976 --> 00:04:54,111 False religion is described as Babylon. 71 00:04:54,111 --> 00:04:58,281 Basically, false religion has become 72 00:04:58,281 --> 00:05:00,581 a dwelling place for demons, 73 00:05:00,581 --> 00:05:03,167 a haunt for every unclean spirit, 74 00:05:03,167 --> 00:05:05,427 a haunt for every unclean bird, 75 00:05:05,427 --> 00:05:08,427 a haunt for every unclean and detestable beast, 76 00:05:08,427 --> 00:05:10,403 all the nations have drunk 77 00:05:10,403 --> 00:05:14,623 the wine of the passion of her sexual immorality. 78 00:05:14,623 --> 00:05:17,567 False religion pervades every country 79 00:05:17,567 --> 00:05:20,567 on the face of this earth. Guaranteed. 80 00:05:20,567 --> 00:05:26,617 They have all drunk of the passion of her sexual immorality. 81 00:05:26,617 --> 00:05:29,079 How many governments in this world 82 00:05:29,079 --> 00:05:32,899 are Catholic governments? Muslim governments? 83 00:05:32,899 --> 00:05:35,428 And even the ones like in Turkey 84 00:05:35,428 --> 00:05:39,228 who claim to be secular, 85 00:05:39,228 --> 00:05:44,573 they're drunk with the passions of the sexual immorality of Islam. 86 00:05:44,573 --> 00:05:46,259 No question about it. 87 00:05:46,259 --> 00:05:50,187 The kings of the earth have committed immorality with her, 88 00:05:50,187 --> 00:05:51,917 and the merchants of the earth 89 00:05:51,917 --> 00:05:55,183 have grown rich from the power of her luxurious living, 90 00:05:55,183 --> 00:05:58,148 then I heard another voice from heaven saying this, 91 00:05:58,148 --> 00:06:01,838 'Come out of her, My people, 92 00:06:01,838 --> 00:06:03,828 lest you take part in her sins, 93 00:06:03,828 --> 00:06:05,708 lest you share in her plagues, 94 00:06:05,708 --> 00:06:08,708 for her sins are heaped high as heaven, 95 00:06:08,708 --> 00:06:11,363 and God has remembered her iniquities.' 96 00:06:11,363 --> 00:06:15,147 Mormonism is taking multitudes to hell! 97 00:06:15,147 --> 00:06:17,537 Come out from among her. 98 00:06:17,537 --> 00:06:20,600 Or 2 Corinthians 6:16, we are the temple of the living God, 99 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,600 as God said, I will make my dwelling among them, 100 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,233 and walk among them, 101 00:06:25,233 --> 00:06:28,833 and I will be their God and they shall be My people. 102 00:06:28,833 --> 00:06:31,707 Therefore, go out from their midst 103 00:06:31,707 --> 00:06:34,347 and be separate from them, says the Lord, and 104 00:06:34,347 --> 00:06:36,790 touch no unclean thing and I will welcome you, 105 00:06:36,790 --> 00:06:38,660 and I will be a Father to you, 106 00:06:38,660 --> 00:06:40,663 and you shall be the sons and daughters to me, 107 00:06:40,663 --> 00:06:43,213 says the Lord Almighty. 108 00:06:43,213 --> 00:06:47,691 Listen: we know well Paul's words, do we not? 109 00:06:47,691 --> 00:06:50,691 Even if we or an angel, Galatians 1:8, 110 00:06:50,691 --> 00:06:53,559 even an angel from heaven should preach to you 111 00:06:53,559 --> 00:06:56,559 a gospel contrary to the one we preach to you, 112 00:06:56,559 --> 00:06:59,234 let him be accursed. 113 00:06:59,234 --> 00:07:01,433 Do you realize Mormonism falls 114 00:07:01,433 --> 00:07:06,673 under the accursement of this inspired apostle? 115 00:07:06,673 --> 00:07:10,948 His curse on all who proclaim another gospel. 116 00:07:10,948 --> 00:07:15,008 You say, does Mormonism preach another gospel? 117 00:07:15,008 --> 00:07:21,643 Listen: the 3rd article of faith of the Church of Latter Day Saints, 118 00:07:21,643 --> 00:07:26,443 one of the 13 points of their basic church doctrine: 119 00:07:26,443 --> 00:07:32,461 Anybody involved in the Church of Latter Day Saints can look this up, 120 00:07:32,461 --> 00:07:39,641 it is their 3rd article of their 13 basic points. 121 00:07:39,641 --> 00:07:45,380 They're collectively known in Mormonism as the articles of faith. 122 00:07:45,380 --> 00:07:49,620 They're included in the standard Latter Day Saints scriptures, 123 00:07:49,620 --> 00:07:53,981 and members are encouraged to become familiar or memorize them, 124 00:07:53,981 --> 00:07:59,315 the third article of faith reads verbatim: 125 00:07:59,315 --> 00:08:03,155 We believe that through the atonement of Christ, 126 00:08:03,155 --> 00:08:06,325 all mankind may be saved by obedience 127 00:08:06,325 --> 00:08:10,456 to the laws and ordinances of the gospel." 128 00:08:10,456 --> 00:08:12,111 And you better hear that... 129 00:08:12,111 --> 00:08:16,199 they're not saying we're saved by the atonement of Christ, 130 00:08:16,199 --> 00:08:18,839 and everything He achieved there. 131 00:08:18,839 --> 00:08:22,389 You are only saved by the atonement of Christ 132 00:08:22,389 --> 00:08:30,869 and maybe saved by obedience to the laws. 133 00:08:30,869 --> 00:08:36,406 I'm going to quote to you from the teachings of Ezra Taft Benson, 134 00:08:36,406 --> 00:08:46,276 13th president of the LDS in his teachings, pages 353-354, 135 00:08:46,276 --> 00:08:52,170 he says this, "Grace consists of God's gift to His children 136 00:08:52,170 --> 00:08:55,240 wherein He gave His only begotten Son 137 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,960 that whosoever would believe in Him, 138 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:03,408 and comply with His laws and ordinances would have everlasting life. 139 00:09:03,408 --> 00:09:08,998 Or Bruce Redd McConckie, an apostle of the LDS, 140 00:09:08,998 --> 00:09:13,098 in his book "Mormon Doctrine," page 408 141 00:09:13,098 --> 00:09:17,682 "As with all other doctrines of salvation, 142 00:09:17,682 --> 00:09:22,572 justification is available because of the atoning sacrifice of Christ, 143 00:09:22,572 --> 00:09:26,661 but it becomes operative in the life of an individual 144 00:09:26,661 --> 00:09:33,281 only on conditions of personal righteousness." 145 00:09:33,281 --> 00:09:41,459 That is a blatant and manifest denial of the Gospel. 146 00:09:41,459 --> 00:09:45,996 Romans 3:20 "For by works of the law, 147 00:09:45,996 --> 00:09:50,016 no human being will be justified in His sight." 148 00:09:50,016 --> 00:09:55,121 No, Mr. McConckie, it is not 149 00:09:55,121 --> 00:09:58,271 'it becomes operative in the life of an individual 150 00:09:58,271 --> 00:10:02,611 on conditions of personal righteousness.' 151 00:10:02,611 --> 00:10:07,728 The justification that we have from Jesus Christ 152 00:10:07,728 --> 00:10:12,238 becomes operative by faith. 153 00:10:12,238 --> 00:10:17,007 By faith, Abraham was declared righteous. 154 00:10:17,007 --> 00:10:20,007 By faith. 155 00:10:20,007 --> 00:10:27,381 Yes, faith will produce works, 156 00:10:27,381 --> 00:10:30,171 but the works do not merit our salvation. 157 00:10:30,171 --> 00:10:36,967 By works of the law, no human being will be justified in His sight. 158 00:10:36,967 --> 00:10:39,795 Or Titus 3:5, He saved us, 159 00:10:39,795 --> 00:10:45,045 not because of works done by us in righteousness, 160 00:10:45,045 --> 00:10:47,335 but according to His own mercy, 161 00:10:47,335 --> 00:10:51,475 by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit. 162 00:10:51,475 --> 00:10:58,089 What I would say to this man James, is this: 163 00:10:58,089 --> 00:11:08,210 Jesus Christ calls us to full, 164 00:11:08,210 --> 00:11:13,850 undiluted devotion to Him. 165 00:11:13,850 --> 00:11:16,704 Luke 14:26, "If anyone comes to me and 166 00:11:16,704 --> 00:11:20,364 does not hate his own father, and mother, 167 00:11:20,364 --> 00:11:23,221 and wife, and children, and brothers, 168 00:11:23,221 --> 00:11:25,251 and sisters, yes, and even his own life, 169 00:11:25,251 --> 00:11:27,428 he cannot be my disciple." 170 00:11:27,428 --> 00:11:29,580 I would say to this man James: 171 00:11:29,580 --> 00:11:33,850 if you're seeking to stay in Mormonism, in a false religion, 172 00:11:33,850 --> 00:11:37,156 in a religion that God tells you to come out of, 173 00:11:37,156 --> 00:11:40,626 in a religion that the Apostle Paul cursed, 174 00:11:40,626 --> 00:11:42,782 if you are determined to stay there 175 00:11:42,782 --> 00:11:45,112 and it has to do with a greater affection 176 00:11:45,112 --> 00:11:48,212 for any family relationship than what you have for Christ 177 00:11:48,212 --> 00:11:53,545 He says, Christ Himself says, you cannot be His disciple. 178 00:11:53,545 --> 00:11:55,906 Whoever does not bear his own cross 179 00:11:55,906 --> 00:11:59,216 and come after Me cannot be My disciple. 180 00:11:59,216 --> 00:12:03,048 Luke 14:33, "so therefore any one of you 181 00:12:03,048 --> 00:12:07,068 who does not renounce all that he has 182 00:12:07,068 --> 00:12:11,458 cannot be My disciple." 183 00:12:11,458 --> 00:12:16,022 So we would call James and anybody else in that situation... 184 00:12:16,022 --> 00:12:23,006 Catholicism has a cursed message, 185 00:12:23,006 --> 00:12:27,116 Islam is a damnable religion, 186 00:12:27,116 --> 00:12:32,294 Jehovah's Witnesses deny the deity of Christ, 187 00:12:32,294 --> 00:12:36,526 all these religions deny that Jesus Christ 188 00:12:36,526 --> 00:12:40,516 in a perfect life, in a perfect obedience, 189 00:12:40,516 --> 00:12:43,787 according to Philippians 2, 190 00:12:43,787 --> 00:12:47,857 He took that obedience all the way to becoming a man, 191 00:12:47,857 --> 00:12:51,820 perfectly, coming and submitting to His Father, 192 00:12:51,820 --> 00:12:54,762 taking that obedience all the way to death, 193 00:12:54,762 --> 00:12:57,762 even death on a cross, 194 00:12:57,762 --> 00:13:02,402 Jesus Christ, through tears, He learned obedience, 195 00:13:02,402 --> 00:13:06,288 He suffered before His Father, 196 00:13:06,288 --> 00:13:09,568 He earned a righteousness whereby 197 00:13:09,568 --> 00:13:11,956 the righteousness of God, 198 00:13:11,956 --> 00:13:16,436 the righteousness God demands of us was earned, 199 00:13:16,436 --> 00:13:20,057 it was merited by Christ Himself. 200 00:13:20,057 --> 00:13:25,561 To John the Baptist, 201 00:13:25,561 --> 00:13:27,691 He says, "John, baptize Me." 202 00:13:27,691 --> 00:13:30,011 John says, "Lord, I need to be baptized of You. 203 00:13:30,011 --> 00:13:32,471 You come here to be baptized by me?" 204 00:13:32,471 --> 00:13:36,424 And He said that all righteousness might be fulfilled, 205 00:13:36,424 --> 00:13:42,123 Jesus Christ had to walk through life and do what we do, 206 00:13:42,123 --> 00:13:44,319 be involved in what we're involved with, 207 00:13:44,319 --> 00:13:47,319 and do it in absolute perfection, 208 00:13:47,319 --> 00:13:49,712 and fulfill all righteousness 209 00:13:49,712 --> 00:13:53,232 so that the law might be satisfied perfectly, 210 00:13:53,232 --> 00:13:56,923 and in so doing, He takes all of that obedience, 211 00:13:56,923 --> 00:13:59,923 all the way to obeying His Father, 212 00:13:59,923 --> 00:14:03,685 and going to give His life 213 00:14:03,685 --> 00:14:06,685 as a ransom for many on Calvary's cross, 214 00:14:06,685 --> 00:14:08,578 so that He could come to that very point 215 00:14:08,578 --> 00:14:11,128 where He breathed His last, 216 00:14:11,128 --> 00:14:14,042 and just giving up the spirit, 217 00:14:14,042 --> 00:14:18,242 He says, "It is finished," and it's done. 218 00:14:18,242 --> 00:14:20,851 He has accomplished salvation. 219 00:14:20,851 --> 00:14:24,791 He was stricken, He was smitten, He was afflicted of God, 220 00:14:24,791 --> 00:14:29,414 He was crushed by almighty wrath on that cross, 221 00:14:29,414 --> 00:14:35,582 so that in the end of it, it is finished. 222 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:47,167 And now, the most vile sinner, much like Luke 19, 223 00:14:47,167 --> 00:14:55,377 the tax collector beating on his breast, 224 00:14:55,377 --> 00:15:00,565 no works to offer God. 225 00:15:00,565 --> 00:15:03,565 Christ sets him off against the Pharisee, 226 00:15:03,565 --> 00:15:06,507 who was boasting - he fasts, he gives, 227 00:15:06,507 --> 00:15:11,817 he does, he works, he puts forth an effort; 228 00:15:11,817 --> 00:15:15,391 this man beat on his breast, 229 00:15:15,391 --> 00:15:18,391 wouldn't even raise his head, he simply said, 230 00:15:18,391 --> 00:15:21,420 "God, be merciful to me, a sinner." 231 00:15:21,420 --> 00:15:24,334 Jesus did not say He went out 232 00:15:24,334 --> 00:15:26,864 and did all these works 233 00:15:26,864 --> 00:15:30,024 to make justification possible. 234 00:15:30,024 --> 00:15:32,868 He specifically said this man 235 00:15:32,868 --> 00:15:35,868 had no works to offer God, 236 00:15:35,868 --> 00:15:37,882 totally contrary to the Pharisee, 237 00:15:37,882 --> 00:15:41,402 who is offering God all sorts of good works, 238 00:15:41,402 --> 00:15:46,437 and Jesus says, make no qualms about it, 239 00:15:46,437 --> 00:15:56,747 Jesus says, "This man went home justified, and not the other." 240 00:15:56,747 --> 00:16:01,929 Be certain of that. 241 00:16:01,929 --> 00:16:05,641 This Mormon is a liar. 242 00:16:05,641 --> 00:16:09,981 These Mormons I quoted, they are liars. 243 00:16:09,981 --> 00:16:15,812 You cannot be justified the way they say. 244 00:16:15,812 --> 00:16:20,642 They're liars. 245 00:16:20,642 --> 00:16:27,986 Paul was very specific in Romans 4, 246 00:16:27,986 --> 00:16:37,276 it was not works, it was not works... 247 00:16:37,276 --> 00:16:41,224 Abraham had no place to boast in works. 248 00:16:41,224 --> 00:16:43,832 And if anybody doubts that, 249 00:16:43,832 --> 00:16:52,582 you not only have Luke 19, you have Romans 4:5, 250 00:16:52,582 --> 00:16:55,426 and it is unmistakable. 251 00:16:55,426 --> 00:17:00,166 Who does God justify? 252 00:17:00,166 --> 00:17:06,569 He who justifies the ungodly. 253 00:17:06,569 --> 00:17:10,549 It doesn't say He justifies those who 254 00:17:10,549 --> 00:17:14,979 work and obey and keep laws. 255 00:17:14,979 --> 00:17:21,575 It says He justifies the ungodly. 256 00:17:21,575 --> 00:17:23,593 These Mormons are liars. 257 00:17:23,593 --> 00:17:25,443 It is a corrupt system. 258 00:17:25,443 --> 00:17:27,443 It is a damning system. 259 00:17:27,443 --> 00:17:29,721 And if you are a follower of Jesus Christ, 260 00:17:29,721 --> 00:17:34,331 God calls you, "Come out." 261 00:17:34,331 --> 00:17:37,249 So no, you do not want to stay. 262 00:17:37,249 --> 00:17:40,249 It is a haunt of demons. 263 00:17:40,249 --> 00:17:47,744 A man cannot be saved unless the most basic aspects 264 00:17:47,744 --> 00:17:50,744 of the Gospel are understood. 265 00:17:50,744 --> 00:17:55,545 You see, we're called to believe something. 266 00:17:55,545 --> 00:18:02,065 There are very concrete propositions, or truths, 267 00:18:02,065 --> 00:18:05,874 that are presented in the basic Christian message 268 00:18:05,874 --> 00:18:08,874 that must be adhered to, they must be believed, 269 00:18:08,874 --> 00:18:11,172 they must be laid hold on. 270 00:18:11,172 --> 00:18:14,842 You clearly see that in 1 Corinthians 15, do you not? 271 00:18:14,842 --> 00:18:22,170 Paul is laying down very basic tenets of the Gospel, 272 00:18:22,170 --> 00:18:29,530 and the thing is, false religions are not a little hazy 273 00:18:29,530 --> 00:18:32,520 in some obscure doctrine. 274 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:36,035 False religions attack the foundations; 275 00:18:36,035 --> 00:18:39,525 they attack the very core message. 276 00:18:39,525 --> 00:18:42,351 That's what Paul's dealing with in Galatians 1:8, 277 00:18:42,351 --> 00:18:45,351 if somebody, even an angel from heaven, 278 00:18:45,351 --> 00:18:47,933 it doesn't matter who it is, if they come to you 279 00:18:47,933 --> 00:18:50,983 preaching another gospel than what we have preached, 280 00:18:50,983 --> 00:18:52,768 let them be accursed. 281 00:18:52,768 --> 00:18:57,459 And the thing is, the Gospel at its very root 282 00:18:57,459 --> 00:19:01,379 has to do to with Christ, His person, 283 00:19:01,379 --> 00:19:04,302 His character, who He is, 284 00:19:04,302 --> 00:19:08,182 and what He accomplished, in His life, on the cross, 285 00:19:08,182 --> 00:19:10,201 in His death. 286 00:19:10,201 --> 00:19:12,112 If a man does not have 287 00:19:12,112 --> 00:19:17,552 a basic understanding of that, he cannot be saved. 288 00:19:17,552 --> 00:19:20,721 There needs to be a basic comprehension of that. 289 00:19:20,721 --> 00:19:25,615 And the thing is these false religions attack on that level. 290 00:19:25,615 --> 00:19:27,414 Like I say it's not some obscure teaching 291 00:19:27,414 --> 00:19:30,414 about eschatology where they go wrong, 292 00:19:30,414 --> 00:19:33,735 they attack the very central message 293 00:19:33,735 --> 00:19:37,715 in a way that their message is damning. 294 00:19:37,715 --> 00:19:39,665 This is night and day, 295 00:19:39,665 --> 00:19:41,715 this is dark and light, 296 00:19:41,715 --> 00:19:45,455 this is the difference between life and death. 297 00:19:45,455 --> 00:19:47,602 This is truth and error. 298 00:19:47,602 --> 00:19:49,912 This is of God and of the devil. 299 00:19:49,912 --> 00:19:54,862 This is where the Spirit operates versus the haunt of demons. 300 00:19:54,862 --> 00:19:57,660 We're not talking some vague, small thing; 301 00:19:57,660 --> 00:20:01,700 we're talking about very foundational matters. 302 00:20:01,700 --> 00:20:05,700 Now look, I know there have been times in history 303 00:20:05,700 --> 00:20:10,420 where there have been certain individuals 304 00:20:10,420 --> 00:20:18,671 that stayed in the Catholic church 305 00:20:18,671 --> 00:20:24,591 or they stayed in the Anglican church, 306 00:20:24,591 --> 00:20:28,014 and they held to the truth. 307 00:20:28,014 --> 00:20:35,132 Typically people who did that, Savrinola, they burned him. 308 00:20:35,132 --> 00:20:39,655 I mean, typically, the people that tried to hold on 309 00:20:39,655 --> 00:20:42,655 in the midst of those kinds of situations 310 00:20:42,655 --> 00:20:44,532 suffered great persecution; 311 00:20:44,532 --> 00:20:49,172 they were put to death, they were ostracized, you name it. 312 00:20:49,172 --> 00:20:51,963 Even the evangelicals that stayed in the Anglican church, 313 00:20:51,963 --> 00:20:53,713 they tended to be a minority, 314 00:20:53,713 --> 00:20:57,005 rocks were thrown at them, 315 00:20:57,005 --> 00:21:08,415 probably literally and not so literally. 316 00:21:08,415 --> 00:21:14,063 I guess the point is what we find here is 317 00:21:14,063 --> 00:21:18,593 God is calling His people out of false religion, 318 00:21:18,593 --> 00:21:21,128 and I really believe that if you study Babylon, 319 00:21:21,128 --> 00:21:23,338 if you study that harlot... 320 00:21:23,338 --> 00:21:26,182 A lot of our forefathers have thought 321 00:21:26,182 --> 00:21:29,902 it spoke of Catholicism and the priests. 322 00:21:29,902 --> 00:21:35,435 I would say Catholicism is just one among many antichrists 323 00:21:35,435 --> 00:21:38,435 that are representative of false religion. 324 00:21:38,435 --> 00:21:43,156 There was a day when the Pope and Catholicism 325 00:21:43,156 --> 00:21:46,156 seemed to be the main enemy. 326 00:21:46,156 --> 00:21:50,307 Today we might look at it and say Islam may be, 327 00:21:50,307 --> 00:21:54,347 although if you talk to Ryan, 328 00:21:54,347 --> 00:21:58,191 he probably still sees Catholicism... 329 00:21:58,191 --> 00:22:00,721 I think what we basically see is this: 330 00:22:00,721 --> 00:22:03,102 If you're in Romania, it's Eastern Orthodox; 331 00:22:03,102 --> 00:22:06,102 if you're in Russia, it's Eastern Orthodox, 332 00:22:06,102 --> 00:22:09,807 if you're in Tibet, it's Buddhism, 333 00:22:09,807 --> 00:22:12,807 if you're in India, it's Hinduism, 334 00:22:12,807 --> 00:22:17,740 Basically what you have is a picture of false religion, 335 00:22:17,740 --> 00:22:21,930 and God is calling His people out. 336 00:22:21,930 --> 00:22:26,286 And the truth is, 337 00:22:26,286 --> 00:22:29,506 that if somebody is in one of those systems 338 00:22:29,506 --> 00:22:33,776 and they simply do not have the ability to see the difference 339 00:22:33,776 --> 00:22:36,082 between the true Gospel 340 00:22:36,082 --> 00:22:39,062 and that which is a corrupt perversion, 341 00:22:39,062 --> 00:22:43,742 then there is probably a very great likelihood they're not converted, 342 00:22:43,742 --> 00:22:47,420 because one of the things we find that happens 343 00:22:47,420 --> 00:22:51,840 is that the Spirit of God opens men's eyes. 344 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:55,825 They're no longer blind. They now have the ability to see. 345 00:22:55,825 --> 00:22:58,265 The Scriptures come alive. 346 00:22:58,265 --> 00:23:00,025 We actually find various Scriptures 347 00:23:00,025 --> 00:23:02,125 scattered through the New Testament 348 00:23:02,125 --> 00:23:07,687 that show us that we're taught of God. 349 00:23:07,687 --> 00:23:10,311 The problem is that if it's difficult for people 350 00:23:10,311 --> 00:23:13,311 to give up their old beliefs, 351 00:23:13,311 --> 00:23:16,146 it's because they have not come to a new belief. 352 00:23:16,146 --> 00:23:18,823 Because that's exactly what faith is: 353 00:23:18,823 --> 00:23:26,313 Faith is beholding in Christ the answer to my sin 354 00:23:26,313 --> 00:23:28,843 that I never found in anything else, 355 00:23:28,843 --> 00:23:33,445 the answer to my eternal glory, to my joy, 356 00:23:33,445 --> 00:23:36,755 to what is seen in Christ as something precious 357 00:23:36,755 --> 00:23:40,322 that I never found in anything else. 358 00:23:40,322 --> 00:23:43,335 What you're saying is no different than saying 359 00:23:43,335 --> 00:23:46,885 a guy given to pornography for his whole life 360 00:23:46,885 --> 00:23:49,719 it's very difficult for him to give up 361 00:23:49,719 --> 00:23:52,659 what he loved so much for all those years. 362 00:23:52,659 --> 00:23:55,275 It's the same thing. 363 00:23:55,275 --> 00:23:56,605 When Jesus Christ comes along, 364 00:23:56,605 --> 00:23:59,219 what in the world do we think salvation is? 365 00:23:59,219 --> 00:24:03,570 Salvation is being saved from those things. 366 00:24:03,570 --> 00:24:07,332 It's being saved from the power of sin. 367 00:24:07,347 --> 00:24:10,254 It says it very clearly in Romans 6, 368 00:24:10,254 --> 00:24:13,254 sin shall not have dominion over you. 369 00:24:13,254 --> 00:24:23,940 Jesus Christ comes along to save people to the uttermost. 370 00:24:23,940 --> 00:24:30,114 Not to leave them lingering, hovering over these things 371 00:24:30,114 --> 00:24:33,884 and going on with their spiritual adultery and fornication, 372 00:24:33,884 --> 00:24:36,740 that's why He says come out from among them. 373 00:24:36,740 --> 00:24:41,420 Come out from among all that whoredom, 374 00:24:41,420 --> 00:24:47,499 and that adultery and fornication in a spiritual sense, come out. 375 00:24:47,499 --> 00:24:53,271 Do you realize what's happening when the church of LDS meets? 376 00:24:53,271 --> 00:24:58,845 It's a room full of whores committing spiritual idolatry. 377 00:24:58,845 --> 00:25:07,096 When a Catholic church gets together, it is whoredom. 378 00:25:07,096 --> 00:25:11,126 It is spiritual adultery. 379 00:25:11,126 --> 00:25:16,568 People committing lewd acts of spiritual abomination. 380 00:25:16,568 --> 00:25:18,603 That's what it is. 381 00:25:18,603 --> 00:25:23,033 When people put their affection and attention 382 00:25:23,033 --> 00:25:26,033 on writings other than the Scriptures, 383 00:25:26,033 --> 00:25:28,537 saviors other than Christ, 384 00:25:28,537 --> 00:25:31,197 gods who are not the God of the Bible, 385 00:25:31,197 --> 00:25:34,447 the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, 386 00:25:34,447 --> 00:25:40,099 when they turn and lay their trust and lay their hope, 387 00:25:40,099 --> 00:25:43,769 you just read what God says about the Jews 388 00:25:43,769 --> 00:25:47,839 when they worshiped other gods, 389 00:25:47,839 --> 00:25:50,229 up under every green tree; 390 00:25:50,229 --> 00:25:54,229 He uses language that is graphic, 391 00:25:54,229 --> 00:25:57,229 because that's how it is to Him. 392 00:25:57,229 --> 00:26:01,426 It's like a married woman going out 393 00:26:01,426 --> 00:26:04,426 and finding another man not her husband 394 00:26:04,426 --> 00:26:08,119 and committing all sorts of lewd acts 395 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:14,089 and indescribable sexual abominations and perversions 396 00:26:14,089 --> 00:26:18,991 selling herself cheap, giving herself, 397 00:26:18,991 --> 00:26:23,651 and I'm not even coming up to Biblical descriptions 398 00:26:23,651 --> 00:26:34,749 (response from the room - inaudible) 399 00:26:34,749 --> 00:26:37,197 Yes, there's idolatry of all sorts. 400 00:26:37,197 --> 00:26:43,227 But the fact is, false religion is the devil's playground, 401 00:26:43,227 --> 00:26:48,742 and God calls us to come out from among it. 402 00:26:48,742 --> 00:26:51,441 But the thing is, false religion can be like Islam, 403 00:26:51,441 --> 00:26:53,751 or it can be like Joel Osteen. 404 00:26:53,751 --> 00:26:55,730 It can be the faith movement, 405 00:26:55,730 --> 00:27:00,420 health, wealth and prosperity, or it can be the Amish. 406 00:27:00,420 --> 00:27:03,168 I mean, it's got every look under the sun. 407 00:27:03,168 --> 00:27:05,067 The Wilkenson's were just telling us Sunday 408 00:27:05,067 --> 00:27:08,067 about the people who dress in grey; 409 00:27:08,067 --> 00:27:12,408 it can look like that or it can look like Benny Hinn. 410 00:27:12,408 --> 00:27:17,928 It's everything in between. 411 00:27:17,946 --> 00:27:25,560 Anyway, that's it for tonight.