1 00:00:04,108 --> 00:00:05,901 Well, one thing that's definitely 2 00:00:05,901 --> 00:00:07,512 evident to me in our day, 3 00:00:07,512 --> 00:00:09,538 at least in our city - 4 00:00:09,538 --> 00:00:10,878 you guys have all seen 5 00:00:10,878 --> 00:00:15,199 the "I'm a Mormon" billboards around, 6 00:00:15,199 --> 00:00:17,387 we're in San Antonio here. 7 00:00:17,387 --> 00:00:19,869 And it's really obvious that those 8 00:00:19,869 --> 00:00:22,367 who style themselves 9 00:00:22,367 --> 00:00:25,040 "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" 10 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,841 or commonly the members are called Mormons, 11 00:00:28,841 --> 00:00:30,055 it's really evident - 12 00:00:30,055 --> 00:00:32,459 what kind of people do you have on the billboards? 13 00:00:32,459 --> 00:00:34,282 You don't have ugly people. 14 00:00:34,282 --> 00:00:36,855 You don't have frowning people. 15 00:00:36,855 --> 00:00:38,736 You've got guys surfing, 16 00:00:38,736 --> 00:00:40,732 guys riding motorcycles, 17 00:00:40,732 --> 00:00:42,931 pretty people, handsome people. 18 00:00:42,931 --> 00:00:44,261 What's that all about? 19 00:00:44,261 --> 00:00:48,699 Obviously, it is seeking to make Mormonism 20 00:00:48,699 --> 00:00:50,704 look desirable, 21 00:00:50,704 --> 00:00:52,802 to make it look normal, 22 00:00:52,802 --> 00:00:54,292 to make it look exciting, 23 00:00:54,292 --> 00:00:56,635 to make it look acceptable. 24 00:00:56,635 --> 00:01:00,010 Unquestionably, they are 25 00:01:00,010 --> 00:01:03,805 on an aggressive advertising campaign 26 00:01:03,805 --> 00:01:09,451 to make Mormonism look like something 27 00:01:09,451 --> 00:01:13,279 that you want. 28 00:01:13,279 --> 00:01:17,942 And if there's anything that stands out to me 29 00:01:17,942 --> 00:01:21,685 as far as the Mormon approach, 30 00:01:21,685 --> 00:01:25,448 it's that they're aggressively trying 31 00:01:25,448 --> 00:01:28,278 to sell themselves in our day 32 00:01:28,278 --> 00:01:30,620 as being Christian. 33 00:01:30,620 --> 00:01:33,587 (incomplete thought) 34 00:01:33,587 --> 00:01:36,989 A week or ten days ago, 35 00:01:36,989 --> 00:01:40,903 actually when we were supposed to film the first time 36 00:01:40,903 --> 00:01:42,531 and we postponed, 37 00:01:42,531 --> 00:01:44,084 but of all things, that night, 38 00:01:44,084 --> 00:01:46,336 I had a couple Mormons come to the door. 39 00:01:46,336 --> 00:01:49,382 And the fact is that I can tell this firsthand, 40 00:01:49,382 --> 00:01:50,908 I can see it by the things 41 00:01:50,908 --> 00:01:53,925 that they are putting out on the Internet. 42 00:01:53,925 --> 00:01:56,992 If there's one thing that's true of Mormonism today, 43 00:01:56,992 --> 00:02:01,323 it's that they want to appear Christian. 44 00:02:01,323 --> 00:02:05,561 They are using Christian terminology. 45 00:02:05,561 --> 00:02:07,655 I mean, the truth is, 46 00:02:07,655 --> 00:02:09,458 these guys don't show up at your door 47 00:02:09,458 --> 00:02:13,320 and start talking about planet Kolob 48 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,220 or the star Kolob. 49 00:02:15,220 --> 00:02:17,137 They don't start talking about polygamy. 50 00:02:17,137 --> 00:02:19,019 They don't tell you Brigham Young 51 00:02:19,019 --> 00:02:22,255 basically said that blacks had a curse on them. 52 00:02:22,255 --> 00:02:24,021 They don't show up at your door 53 00:02:24,021 --> 00:02:27,174 and start talking about spirit children 54 00:02:27,174 --> 00:02:29,016 and the fact that there's many gods. 55 00:02:29,016 --> 00:02:30,596 The moment you open the door, 56 00:02:30,596 --> 00:02:34,126 they don't say Jesus and the devil are brothers. 57 00:02:34,126 --> 00:02:35,469 I mean, they hide all that. 58 00:02:35,469 --> 00:02:37,029 They believe all that, 59 00:02:37,029 --> 00:02:38,876 but that's not what they hit you with. 60 00:02:38,876 --> 00:02:40,699 They hit you with verbiage 61 00:02:40,699 --> 00:02:45,598 that sounds very Christian. 62 00:02:45,598 --> 00:02:47,496 And I've seen it. 63 00:02:47,496 --> 00:02:50,122 One of their so-called "apostles" 64 00:02:50,122 --> 00:02:51,744 is on the Internet, 65 00:02:51,744 --> 00:02:55,240 and he is really making a case 66 00:02:55,240 --> 00:03:00,216 for the fact that Mormonism is Christian. 67 00:03:00,216 --> 00:03:01,448 And so you can see that. 68 00:03:01,448 --> 00:03:02,720 That is their agenda. 69 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,255 They're selling themselves as Christian. 70 00:03:05,255 --> 00:03:08,803 And so, really, all I wanted to do 71 00:03:08,803 --> 00:03:10,725 is I wanted to answer that question: 72 00:03:10,725 --> 00:03:13,348 Is Mormonism Christian? 73 00:03:13,348 --> 00:03:16,313 (Incomplete thought) 74 00:03:16,313 --> 00:03:18,539 It's not going to be the object or the scope 75 00:03:18,539 --> 00:03:20,479 of what I want to try to accomplish here 76 00:03:20,479 --> 00:03:25,324 to prove the doctrines of Christianity, 77 00:03:25,324 --> 00:03:28,234 or not even necessarily to prove 78 00:03:28,234 --> 00:03:31,504 or to debate which one's right 79 00:03:31,504 --> 00:03:33,241 or which one's wrong. 80 00:03:33,241 --> 00:03:35,412 What I simply want to prove 81 00:03:35,412 --> 00:03:39,722 is what Christianity claims, believes, 82 00:03:39,722 --> 00:03:41,929 the foundational doctrines 83 00:03:41,929 --> 00:03:43,604 for the last 2,000 years 84 00:03:43,604 --> 00:03:46,753 are absolutely rejected by Mormonism. 85 00:03:46,753 --> 00:03:48,227 That's what I want to show. 86 00:03:48,227 --> 00:03:49,351 I just want to show 87 00:03:49,351 --> 00:03:53,858 that whatever Mormonism is by definiton, 88 00:03:53,858 --> 00:03:56,714 and whatever Christianity is by definition, 89 00:03:56,714 --> 00:03:58,834 they're not on the same page. 90 00:03:58,834 --> 00:04:02,800 Argue which one is right and wrong, 91 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,324 like I say, it's not the scope. 92 00:04:05,324 --> 00:04:07,386 Mormonism teaches - 93 00:04:07,386 --> 00:04:09,529 we're going to get into depravity of man 94 00:04:09,529 --> 00:04:11,546 and the way of salvation now. 95 00:04:11,546 --> 00:04:14,254 Again, historically, what has Christianity taught? 96 00:04:14,254 --> 00:04:16,457 I guarantee, it's not what Mormonism teaches. 97 00:04:16,457 --> 00:04:19,148 You know what Mormonism teaches? 98 00:04:19,148 --> 00:04:21,526 That Elohim had these two sons: 99 00:04:21,526 --> 00:04:25,979 Lucifer and Jehovah - Jesus, 100 00:04:25,979 --> 00:04:29,418 and that both of them set forth plans 101 00:04:29,418 --> 00:04:31,937 for the redemption of man. 102 00:04:31,937 --> 00:04:36,354 And God the Father rejected the plan of Lucifer 103 00:04:36,354 --> 00:04:40,091 and went with the plan of Jehovah (Jesus). 104 00:04:40,091 --> 00:04:42,758 Guess what the plan supposedly 105 00:04:42,758 --> 00:04:46,457 of Lucifer was? 106 00:04:46,457 --> 00:04:50,187 It was basically a plan 107 00:04:50,187 --> 00:05:02,080 to override the free will of man 108 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,729 and cause him to do something 109 00:05:05,729 --> 00:05:10,339 that he did not have a natural disposition to do. 110 00:05:10,339 --> 00:05:12,053 And supposedly God rejected that 111 00:05:12,053 --> 00:05:13,530 and said no, we're going to go 112 00:05:13,530 --> 00:05:18,863 with the free will plan of Jehovah. 113 00:05:18,863 --> 00:05:19,862 Listen to this, 114 00:05:19,862 --> 00:05:21,808 Mormonism teaches that Jesus 115 00:05:21,808 --> 00:05:25,328 and the devil offered these two plans, 116 00:05:25,328 --> 00:05:28,127 but the devil offered a plan 117 00:05:28,127 --> 00:05:33,454 that would only be by grace. 118 00:05:33,454 --> 00:05:37,630 One in which the free agency of man 119 00:05:37,630 --> 00:05:41,711 would be imposed upon, 120 00:05:41,711 --> 00:05:43,575 and the Father would draw men 121 00:05:43,575 --> 00:05:45,500 to come to Christ for salvation. 122 00:05:45,500 --> 00:05:47,241 You see what he's saying? 123 00:05:47,241 --> 00:05:49,715 They're saying that the devil's plan 124 00:05:49,715 --> 00:05:51,016 was one of grace 125 00:05:51,016 --> 00:05:56,619 where God would overstep man's free will, 126 00:05:56,619 --> 00:06:02,466 violate his free will if you will, 127 00:06:02,466 --> 00:06:07,051 and save men aside from 128 00:06:07,051 --> 00:06:10,429 what they had a natural bent to do 129 00:06:10,429 --> 00:06:12,713 which is amazing. 130 00:06:12,713 --> 00:06:14,944 "Mormons believe that one of the most 131 00:06:14,944 --> 00:06:19,713 fallacious doctrines originated by Satan 132 00:06:19,713 --> 00:06:21,407 and propounded by man 133 00:06:21,407 --> 00:06:24,836 is that man is saved alone by the grace of God; 134 00:06:24,836 --> 00:06:27,036 that belief in Jesus Christ alone 135 00:06:27,036 --> 00:06:29,984 is all that is needed for salvation." 136 00:06:29,984 --> 00:06:31,525 And that is a direct quote from 137 00:06:31,525 --> 00:06:33,053 "The Miracle of Forgiveness" 138 00:06:33,053 --> 00:06:38,582 by Spencer Kimball, page 206. 139 00:06:38,582 --> 00:06:41,079 But what has the church believed? 140 00:06:41,079 --> 00:06:44,475 We believe that man willfully sinned against God. 141 00:06:44,475 --> 00:06:47,125 We believe that in that fallen state 142 00:06:47,125 --> 00:06:50,373 no one seeks for God. 143 00:06:50,373 --> 00:06:52,228 There is none righteous. 144 00:06:52,228 --> 00:06:54,454 There is none that seeks after Him. 145 00:06:54,454 --> 00:06:56,458 And Jesus specifically said 146 00:06:56,458 --> 00:06:59,250 unless My Father who has sent Me 147 00:06:59,250 --> 00:07:01,873 draws a person to Me, 148 00:07:01,873 --> 00:07:03,593 they will not come. 149 00:07:03,593 --> 00:07:05,413 "No one can come to Me 150 00:07:05,413 --> 00:07:09,549 unless My Father who sent Me draws him." 151 00:07:09,549 --> 00:07:12,253 You think that's overstepping man's free will? 152 00:07:12,253 --> 00:07:13,398 You better believe it. 153 00:07:13,398 --> 00:07:15,805 Man in his natural disposition rejects God. 154 00:07:15,805 --> 00:07:16,974 He runs from God. 155 00:07:16,974 --> 00:07:18,911 He doesn't want anything to do with God. 156 00:07:18,911 --> 00:07:21,100 He now so thoroughly bears the guilt 157 00:07:21,100 --> 00:07:24,094 and the nature of Adam, 158 00:07:24,094 --> 00:07:26,507 that he is conceived in sin, 159 00:07:26,507 --> 00:07:29,174 he comes forth from his mother's womb in sin, 160 00:07:29,174 --> 00:07:30,630 he does nothing but sin, 161 00:07:30,630 --> 00:07:32,770 he's at enmity against the law of God. 162 00:07:32,770 --> 00:07:34,765 By nature, we are told from Scripture 163 00:07:34,765 --> 00:07:36,118 that man is dead in sin. 164 00:07:36,118 --> 00:07:37,450 He's under the power of sin. 165 00:07:37,450 --> 00:07:41,510 Men by nature are children of wrath. 166 00:07:41,510 --> 00:07:43,486 By nature, they have hearts 167 00:07:43,486 --> 00:07:46,412 that are deceitful, desperately wicked. 168 00:07:46,412 --> 00:07:50,976 By nature, the truth of God is folly to man. 169 00:07:50,976 --> 00:07:53,491 And in this state, God declares 170 00:07:53,491 --> 00:07:55,567 that men are absolutely incapable 171 00:07:55,567 --> 00:07:57,676 of any good whatsoever, 172 00:07:57,676 --> 00:07:59,034 whether in thought, in deed, 173 00:07:59,034 --> 00:08:00,138 in our best attempts, 174 00:08:00,138 --> 00:08:03,604 our righteousness's are filthy rags. 175 00:08:03,604 --> 00:08:08,975 And basically, the way of salvation 176 00:08:08,975 --> 00:08:11,931 that we love, that we hold to, 177 00:08:11,931 --> 00:08:15,409 is one that the Mormon church - 178 00:08:15,409 --> 00:08:18,728 the very Gospel - 179 00:08:18,728 --> 00:08:21,830 the Mormon church says is of the devil. 180 00:08:21,830 --> 00:08:26,148 Mormons believe Jesus' sacrifice 181 00:08:26,148 --> 00:08:29,401 was not meant to cleanse us 182 00:08:29,401 --> 00:08:31,473 from all our sins. 183 00:08:31,473 --> 00:08:34,995 It was only made in order to make it possible. 184 00:08:34,995 --> 00:08:36,119 And you know what? 185 00:08:36,119 --> 00:08:40,914 The Mormons actually put more 186 00:08:40,914 --> 00:08:43,917 or as much emphasis on Jesus' 187 00:08:43,917 --> 00:08:46,692 sweating of blood in the garden 188 00:08:46,692 --> 00:08:50,060 and they take the attention off the cross. 189 00:08:50,060 --> 00:08:51,623 Have you heard that? 190 00:08:51,623 --> 00:08:53,581 They won't deny that. 191 00:08:53,581 --> 00:08:56,911 They really make a big deal about that. 192 00:08:56,911 --> 00:08:58,828 But they say straight up, 193 00:08:58,828 --> 00:09:02,165 Mormons believe that Jesus' sacrifice 194 00:09:02,165 --> 00:09:05,269 was not able to cleanse from all their sins. 195 00:09:05,269 --> 00:09:08,661 That comes from "Journal of Discourses," 196 00:09:08,661 --> 00:09:12,180 Volume 3, 1856, page 247. 197 00:09:12,180 --> 00:09:14,690 They specifically say good works 198 00:09:14,690 --> 00:09:16,007 are necessary for salvation 199 00:09:16,007 --> 00:09:17,549 in their "Articles of Faith" 200 00:09:17,549 --> 00:09:20,616 by James Talmadge, page 92. 201 00:09:20,616 --> 00:09:22,427 They say there is no salvation 202 00:09:22,427 --> 00:09:24,593 without accepting Joseph Smith 203 00:09:24,593 --> 00:09:25,978 as a prophet of God. 204 00:09:25,978 --> 00:09:27,927 That's found in "Doctrines of Salvation," 205 00:09:27,927 --> 00:09:29,972 Volume 1, page 188. 206 00:09:29,972 --> 00:09:33,255 They say the first effect of the atonement 207 00:09:33,255 --> 00:09:37,341 is to secure all mankind alike, 208 00:09:37,341 --> 00:09:39,283 exemption from the penalty of the fall, 209 00:09:39,283 --> 00:09:42,056 thus providing a plan of general salvation. 210 00:09:42,056 --> 00:09:43,672 The second effect is to open a way 211 00:09:43,672 --> 00:09:46,289 for individual salvation whereby mankind 212 00:09:46,289 --> 00:09:48,416 may secure remission of personal sins. 213 00:09:48,416 --> 00:09:50,362 That's in the "Articles of Faith," 214 00:09:50,362 --> 00:09:52,161 James Talmadge, page 78-79. 215 00:09:52,161 --> 00:09:53,912 What you have to understand there 216 00:09:53,912 --> 00:09:56,544 is the death of Christ secures nothing. 217 00:09:56,544 --> 00:09:59,940 It makes it possible. 218 00:09:59,940 --> 00:10:03,174 They say this grace is an enabling power 219 00:10:03,174 --> 00:10:04,683 that allows men and women 220 00:10:04,683 --> 00:10:07,483 to lay hold on eternal life and exaltation 221 00:10:07,483 --> 00:10:11,929 after they expended their own best efforts. 222 00:10:11,929 --> 00:10:15,240 That is "Latter-day Saints Bible Dictionary," page 697. 223 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,592 "We know that it is by grace that we are saved, 224 00:10:18,592 --> 00:10:21,961 after all we can do." 225 00:10:21,961 --> 00:10:25,367 That's not grace. 226 00:10:25,367 --> 00:10:27,680 That comes from "The Book of Mormon," 227 00:10:27,680 --> 00:10:30,285 2 Nephi 25:23. 228 00:10:30,285 --> 00:10:32,026 Several Latter-day Saint leaders 229 00:10:32,026 --> 00:10:33,958 have exposed their disdain 230 00:10:33,958 --> 00:10:35,224 for the biblical teaching 231 00:10:35,224 --> 00:10:38,084 of salvation by grace through faith alone. 232 00:10:38,084 --> 00:10:40,472 Joseph Smith, on page 192 233 00:10:40,472 --> 00:10:42,685 of "The Restoration of All Things," stated, 234 00:10:42,685 --> 00:10:45,215 "one of the most pernicious doctrines 235 00:10:45,215 --> 00:10:47,853 ever advocated by man 236 00:10:47,853 --> 00:10:51,381 is the doctrine of justification by faith alone 237 00:10:51,381 --> 00:10:53,648 which has entered into the hearts of millions 238 00:10:53,648 --> 00:10:57,474 since the days of the so-called Reformation." 239 00:10:57,474 --> 00:10:59,035 And Joseph Smith calls it 240 00:10:59,035 --> 00:11:00,915 "the so-called Reformation." 241 00:11:00,915 --> 00:11:04,001 In fact, do you know what Joseph Smith did 242 00:11:04,001 --> 00:11:06,712 in all of his revisions of the Bible? 243 00:11:06,712 --> 00:11:11,616 He went into Romans 4:5, 244 00:11:11,616 --> 00:11:13,890 and I'm quoting the King James 245 00:11:13,890 --> 00:11:16,872 because that's the one they claim that they use. 246 00:11:16,872 --> 00:11:19,792 Listen to what it says in the King James. 247 00:11:19,792 --> 00:11:24,458 Romans 4:5, "But to him that worketh not, 248 00:11:24,458 --> 00:11:28,295 but believeth on Him that justifieth the ungodly, 249 00:11:28,295 --> 00:11:30,937 his faith is counted for righteousness." 250 00:11:30,937 --> 00:11:33,742 One of the most glorious doctrines. 251 00:11:33,742 --> 00:11:37,919 In my estimation, it is the most glorious verse 252 00:11:37,919 --> 00:11:41,340 on the doctrine of justification found. 253 00:11:41,340 --> 00:11:44,113 There's many others, but I think it's the most glorious, 254 00:11:44,113 --> 00:11:46,146 simply because it says 255 00:11:46,146 --> 00:11:50,862 that God justifies the ungodly. 256 00:11:50,862 --> 00:11:55,164 He says, "to him that works not, 257 00:11:55,164 --> 00:11:58,585 but believes on Him that justifies the ungodly..." 258 00:11:58,585 --> 00:11:59,895 God is called 259 00:11:59,895 --> 00:12:03,123 "Him who justifies the ungodly." 260 00:12:03,123 --> 00:12:04,974 He declares righteous 261 00:12:04,974 --> 00:12:06,631 ungodly men and women, 262 00:12:06,631 --> 00:12:10,351 not by any works that they do themselves. 263 00:12:10,351 --> 00:12:14,075 For some unknown reason, 264 00:12:14,075 --> 00:12:19,693 Smith added the word "not" into the passage. 265 00:12:19,693 --> 00:12:24,768 He shows his absolute disdain 266 00:12:24,768 --> 00:12:27,727 for the doctrine of justification by faith. 267 00:12:27,727 --> 00:12:31,699 Our souls hang on that doctrine. 268 00:12:31,699 --> 00:12:34,375 That is at the heart of the Gospel. 269 00:12:34,375 --> 00:12:36,504 You reject justification by faith, 270 00:12:36,504 --> 00:12:40,925 you have no Gospel. 271 00:12:40,925 --> 00:12:43,538 Joseph Smith added the word "not." 272 00:12:43,538 --> 00:12:45,801 Listen to how the Joseph Smith translation 273 00:12:45,801 --> 00:12:48,446 of Romans 4:5 reads. 274 00:12:48,446 --> 00:12:52,421 "But to him that seeketh not to be justified 275 00:12:52,421 --> 00:12:54,144 by the law of works, 276 00:12:54,144 --> 00:12:59,455 but believeth on him who justifieth not the ungodly, 277 00:12:59,455 --> 00:13:02,043 his faith is counted for righteousness." 278 00:13:02,043 --> 00:13:04,649 He didn't even take the doctrine away, 279 00:13:04,649 --> 00:13:07,838 because it still says his faith is counted 280 00:13:07,838 --> 00:13:09,500 as righteousness. 281 00:13:09,500 --> 00:13:11,494 But he put the word "not" in there. 282 00:13:11,494 --> 00:13:16,474 He calls God, "him who justifieth not the ungodly," 283 00:13:16,474 --> 00:13:19,139 and yet, he didn't alter the second part of the verse 284 00:13:19,139 --> 00:13:20,738 that comes right around and says 285 00:13:20,738 --> 00:13:22,710 his faith is counted for righteousness. 286 00:13:22,710 --> 00:13:26,434 I mean, he shows his absolute absurdity. 287 00:13:26,434 --> 00:13:28,394 He shows how he hated the doctrine; 288 00:13:28,394 --> 00:13:30,034 he sought to corrupt Scripture, 289 00:13:30,034 --> 00:13:31,499 and at the same time, 290 00:13:31,499 --> 00:13:39,586 he shows his... I don't know what. 291 00:13:39,586 --> 00:13:44,317 I mean, obviously, God foiled him 292 00:13:44,317 --> 00:13:48,957 in his attempt, because even in his change 293 00:13:48,957 --> 00:13:51,256 he didn't take it away. 294 00:13:51,256 --> 00:13:52,841 He still left it. 295 00:13:52,841 --> 00:13:56,320 His faith is counted for righteousness. 296 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,042 He shows his ignorance. 297 00:13:58,042 --> 00:14:01,553 He really didn't elimiate the doctrine. 298 00:14:01,553 --> 00:14:06,574 But he shows a fearlessness 299 00:14:06,574 --> 00:14:09,094 in changing the Word of God. 300 00:14:09,094 --> 00:14:13,308 I would not want to be in his shoes. 301 00:14:13,308 --> 00:14:14,879 I mean, we find that salvation 302 00:14:14,879 --> 00:14:16,193 is through Christ alone. 303 00:14:16,193 --> 00:14:19,250 Salvation is looking to the finished work 304 00:14:19,250 --> 00:14:21,686 that Christ did - 305 00:14:21,686 --> 00:14:24,793 the Christ who was not created. 306 00:14:24,793 --> 00:14:27,562 The Christ who in the beginning was the Word of God; 307 00:14:27,562 --> 00:14:30,729 the One who is the image bearer of His Father; 308 00:14:30,729 --> 00:14:34,145 the One who is eternally God. 309 00:14:34,145 --> 00:14:35,594 God in three persons 310 00:14:35,594 --> 00:14:38,900 revealing Himself in a Trinity to us. 311 00:14:38,900 --> 00:14:43,501 The Son who being with God forever, 312 00:14:43,501 --> 00:14:45,551 being sent from the Father 313 00:14:45,551 --> 00:14:48,852 to take upon Himself 314 00:14:48,852 --> 00:14:52,032 the likeness of sinful flesh, 315 00:14:52,032 --> 00:14:54,015 and in all respects being made like 316 00:14:54,015 --> 00:14:55,531 the offspring of Abraham, 317 00:14:55,531 --> 00:14:59,836 He came to earn salvation 318 00:14:59,836 --> 00:15:02,209 for those who by faith 319 00:15:02,209 --> 00:15:04,630 will look to Him and be justified 320 00:15:04,630 --> 00:15:06,044 based on the merits, 321 00:15:06,044 --> 00:15:07,848 by the obedience of Him, 322 00:15:07,848 --> 00:15:10,949 the many are made righteous. 323 00:15:10,949 --> 00:15:14,800 That is the foundation for us. 324 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:16,569 God says that our righteousness's 325 00:15:16,569 --> 00:15:19,722 are as filthy rags. 326 00:15:19,722 --> 00:15:21,404 It's not according to our works 327 00:15:21,404 --> 00:15:25,026 and we're thankful that it's not. 328 00:15:25,026 --> 00:15:27,777 But our salvation comes this way, 329 00:15:27,777 --> 00:15:30,458 through the Gospel that is revealed in the Scriptures, 330 00:15:30,458 --> 00:15:32,740 and then as men read that, 331 00:15:32,740 --> 00:15:35,488 as they see it, they hear it, 332 00:15:35,488 --> 00:15:39,410 they behold the Christ of the Gospel, 333 00:15:39,410 --> 00:15:41,105 and they're born again, 334 00:15:41,105 --> 00:15:42,366 their ears are opened, 335 00:15:42,366 --> 00:15:44,126 God has mercy on them, 336 00:15:44,126 --> 00:15:46,164 they run to Christ in faith. 337 00:15:46,164 --> 00:15:49,449 They flee to Him. 338 00:15:49,449 --> 00:15:51,684 Those early guys, those early Mormons, 339 00:15:51,684 --> 00:15:57,586 they would say that murder is an unpardonable sin. 340 00:15:57,586 --> 00:16:01,453 I have a salvation that beats that one. 341 00:16:01,453 --> 00:16:04,867 And they think that you have to do 342 00:16:04,867 --> 00:16:07,503 everything that you possibly can - 343 00:16:07,503 --> 00:16:10,837 again, I have a salvation that's better than that one. 344 00:16:10,837 --> 00:16:12,347 And you know, the problem 345 00:16:12,347 --> 00:16:15,167 with any works system 346 00:16:15,167 --> 00:16:20,038 is what hope would you have given 347 00:16:20,038 --> 00:16:23,475 to the thief on the cross? 348 00:16:23,475 --> 00:16:25,636 The problem with any kind of works salvation 349 00:16:25,636 --> 00:16:32,463 is he can't really make it to the confessional. 350 00:16:32,463 --> 00:16:37,051 He can't really sit down with the priest. 351 00:16:37,051 --> 00:16:39,215 He can't try to do good works 352 00:16:39,215 --> 00:16:41,683 to undo his bad ones. 353 00:16:41,683 --> 00:16:47,825 He's really kind of nailed up there. 354 00:16:47,825 --> 00:16:50,096 Catholicism and Mormonism alike 355 00:16:50,096 --> 00:16:53,262 believe that baptism washes away sin. 356 00:16:53,262 --> 00:16:55,581 You know, he's kind of being prevented from that 357 00:16:55,581 --> 00:16:58,661 right at the moment. 358 00:16:58,661 --> 00:17:02,506 You know, false religions have nothing to say 359 00:17:02,506 --> 00:17:04,816 to the thief on the cross. 360 00:17:04,816 --> 00:17:07,199 Nothing to say. 361 00:17:07,199 --> 00:17:09,414 Christianity does. 362 00:17:09,414 --> 00:17:11,276 We can say, 363 00:17:11,276 --> 00:17:14,606 "We've got really good news for you. 364 00:17:14,606 --> 00:17:15,915 We have a way of salvation 365 00:17:15,915 --> 00:17:18,409 that's entirely based on the merits of another, 366 00:17:18,409 --> 00:17:20,777 not on your own." 367 00:17:20,777 --> 00:17:22,031 And in a moment of time, 368 00:17:22,031 --> 00:17:25,918 if your faith be like the size of a mustard seed, 369 00:17:25,918 --> 00:17:27,579 and you look outside yourself 370 00:17:27,579 --> 00:17:29,714 and trust what this One has done, 371 00:17:29,714 --> 00:17:32,111 which that thief on the cross did - 372 00:17:32,111 --> 00:17:33,761 "Lord, remember me." 373 00:17:33,761 --> 00:17:36,939 He called upon Another. 374 00:17:36,939 --> 00:17:40,940 That is a very hopeful message. 375 00:17:40,940 --> 00:17:42,505 The truth is false religions 376 00:17:42,505 --> 00:17:45,402 can't go on death row (incomplete thought). 377 00:17:45,402 --> 00:17:48,333 You hear about Whitefield and Wesley, 378 00:17:48,333 --> 00:17:50,289 they would spend the night. 379 00:17:50,289 --> 00:17:52,097 I hear about some of these old pastors 380 00:17:52,097 --> 00:17:53,648 who would go into prisons 381 00:17:53,648 --> 00:17:55,131 and they would spend the night 382 00:17:55,131 --> 00:17:57,348 with prisoners who were going to the gallows 383 00:17:57,348 --> 00:17:58,273 the next day, 384 00:17:58,273 --> 00:18:00,214 and they would preach the Gospel to them 385 00:18:00,214 --> 00:18:01,743 all night long. 386 00:18:01,743 --> 00:18:03,730 If they had a works salvation, 387 00:18:03,730 --> 00:18:05,637 they wouldn't be going. 388 00:18:05,637 --> 00:18:07,371 It's hopeless. 389 00:18:07,371 --> 00:18:10,155 These people have sealed their doom. 390 00:18:10,155 --> 00:18:13,112 And a lot of those guys were murderers. 391 00:18:13,112 --> 00:18:15,303 Mormonism doesn't have anything to offer them. 392 00:18:15,303 --> 00:18:18,854 Mormonism says - 393 00:18:18,854 --> 00:18:20,859 some of their leaders have said - 394 00:18:20,859 --> 00:18:23,788 that it's an unpardonable sin. 395 00:18:23,788 --> 00:18:26,872 One of the problems that the Mormon church has 396 00:18:26,872 --> 00:18:28,897 is that the men who have gone before 397 00:18:28,897 --> 00:18:30,763 said a lot of radical things 398 00:18:30,763 --> 00:18:33,753 that they are not really comfortable with today. 399 00:18:33,753 --> 00:18:35,632 They're not politically correct. 400 00:18:35,632 --> 00:18:37,367 There was a day when Mormonism 401 00:18:37,367 --> 00:18:39,098 was very quick to say, 402 00:18:39,098 --> 00:18:40,600 "we're the only true church. 403 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:44,434 If you don't believe like we do, you're damned." 404 00:18:44,434 --> 00:18:46,614 Now, they're taking more the position 405 00:18:46,614 --> 00:18:48,961 they're trying to pawn themselves off 406 00:18:48,961 --> 00:18:51,345 as real Christianity. 407 00:18:51,345 --> 00:18:52,675 And so what they're doing 408 00:18:52,675 --> 00:18:54,888 is they're conveniently trying to gloss over 409 00:18:54,888 --> 00:18:57,368 some of these things that were real hard to accept. 410 00:18:57,368 --> 00:19:00,547 Brigham Young basically said 411 00:19:00,547 --> 00:19:04,404 African Americans bore the mark of Cain, 412 00:19:04,404 --> 00:19:07,113 the mark of Ham, the mark of Canaan, 413 00:19:07,113 --> 00:19:09,045 that they were under a curse. 414 00:19:09,045 --> 00:19:12,730 You can find where he said these things. 415 00:19:12,730 --> 00:19:15,885 Those things I'm pretty certain, 416 00:19:15,885 --> 00:19:19,396 there's lots of stuff on the racism of Mormonism out there. 417 00:19:19,396 --> 00:19:21,554 But you will see that they claim 418 00:19:21,554 --> 00:19:24,650 that they had a revelation in 1978 419 00:19:24,650 --> 00:19:29,055 whereby there was supposedly a change 420 00:19:29,055 --> 00:19:33,582 in their take on blacks. 421 00:19:33,582 --> 00:19:35,219 You know, they have their teaching 422 00:19:35,219 --> 00:19:38,753 of this Melchizedek high priesthood, 423 00:19:38,753 --> 00:19:41,824 and they basically said and taught 424 00:19:41,824 --> 00:19:45,713 that blacks could not a part of this priesthood. 425 00:19:45,713 --> 00:19:47,926 And it's very interesting if you look 426 00:19:47,926 --> 00:19:50,427 at the billboard. 427 00:19:50,427 --> 00:19:54,347 They have African Americans now. 428 00:19:54,347 --> 00:19:57,527 So again, they're trying to come across politically correct. 429 00:19:57,527 --> 00:19:59,794 They're trying to appeal to everybody. 430 00:19:59,794 --> 00:20:04,149 They're not wanting to come across 431 00:20:04,149 --> 00:20:06,467 in any way to open themselves up 432 00:20:06,467 --> 00:20:08,437 for ridicule on those points. 433 00:20:08,437 --> 00:20:10,569 So, yeah, they're changing. 434 00:20:10,569 --> 00:20:12,106 And that's so often the truth. 435 00:20:12,106 --> 00:20:14,081 One thing that's true about Christianity, 436 00:20:14,081 --> 00:20:15,851 it stays the same. 437 00:20:15,851 --> 00:20:17,374 One thing that's typically true 438 00:20:17,374 --> 00:20:20,819 about that which is false religion, 439 00:20:20,819 --> 00:20:22,544 is it's a chameleon. 440 00:20:22,544 --> 00:20:25,053 It will change colors to blend in 441 00:20:25,053 --> 00:20:27,489 with its background. 442 00:20:27,489 --> 00:20:29,414 You know, you have Catholicism 443 00:20:29,414 --> 00:20:33,733 that is constantly seeking to appear 444 00:20:33,733 --> 00:20:34,971 in different colors 445 00:20:34,971 --> 00:20:37,803 and Mormonism the same. 446 00:20:37,803 --> 00:20:42,763 The burning in the bosom. 447 00:20:42,763 --> 00:20:45,502 Two weeks ago probably 448 00:20:45,502 --> 00:20:48,213 when the Mormons showed up here, 449 00:20:48,213 --> 00:20:50,375 both of them said 450 00:20:50,375 --> 00:20:53,523 absolutely dogmatically, 451 00:20:53,523 --> 00:20:56,231 "We have experienced the burning in the bosom. 452 00:20:56,231 --> 00:20:59,006 We are absolutely certain 453 00:20:59,006 --> 00:21:01,803 that Joseph Smith is a prophet of God. 454 00:21:01,803 --> 00:21:03,732 We are absolutely certain 455 00:21:03,732 --> 00:21:06,914 that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints 456 00:21:06,914 --> 00:21:08,594 is a true church. 457 00:21:08,594 --> 00:21:10,810 We are certain." 458 00:21:10,810 --> 00:21:15,551 And what I told them is I don't doubt 459 00:21:15,551 --> 00:21:19,569 that you had a supernatural experience, 460 00:21:19,569 --> 00:21:23,664 but Satan comes an angel of light. 461 00:21:23,664 --> 00:21:27,984 I mean, bottom line is what is the test, 462 00:21:27,984 --> 00:21:29,564 what is the measuring stick, 463 00:21:29,564 --> 00:21:31,888 what's the ruler, 464 00:21:31,888 --> 00:21:34,298 what is the lens through which we must 465 00:21:34,298 --> 00:21:38,712 examine all of our experiences? 466 00:21:38,712 --> 00:21:40,939 Well, as soon as you want to say: 467 00:21:40,939 --> 00:21:43,682 not this book because it's full of errors, 468 00:21:43,682 --> 00:21:45,855 which is what the same guys were telling me. 469 00:21:45,855 --> 00:21:47,466 You see what they're telling me? 470 00:21:47,466 --> 00:21:49,510 I've had an experience and I'm trusting it, 471 00:21:49,510 --> 00:21:51,131 but this book, it's full of errors 472 00:21:51,131 --> 00:21:52,639 and I can't trust it. 473 00:21:52,639 --> 00:21:54,114 Well, all of a sudden, 474 00:21:54,114 --> 00:21:56,762 where is our basis for truth? 475 00:21:56,762 --> 00:21:58,757 Where is the starting point? 476 00:21:58,757 --> 00:21:59,768 I mean, the thing is, 477 00:21:59,768 --> 00:22:02,245 I don't want a starting point with myself. 478 00:22:02,245 --> 00:22:05,787 Because I know I'm weak, 479 00:22:05,787 --> 00:22:09,282 I know that I come from sinful stock, 480 00:22:09,282 --> 00:22:11,152 I know that I come from stock 481 00:22:11,152 --> 00:22:13,681 that was totally deceived 482 00:22:13,681 --> 00:22:15,435 with a heart that was deceitful 483 00:22:15,435 --> 00:22:17,784 and desperately wicked, 484 00:22:17,784 --> 00:22:21,869 I loved to believe lies, 485 00:22:21,869 --> 00:22:23,671 I was a child of the devil 486 00:22:23,671 --> 00:22:25,355 who is the father of lies, 487 00:22:25,355 --> 00:22:27,571 I was a liar and was going to find my place 488 00:22:27,571 --> 00:22:31,096 in the lake of fire if God had not come to rescue me. 489 00:22:31,096 --> 00:22:33,245 Outside of this truth, 490 00:22:33,245 --> 00:22:35,046 where am I going to look for truth? 491 00:22:35,046 --> 00:22:37,084 Not in myself. 492 00:22:37,084 --> 00:22:39,194 And are we going to look for it in the news? 493 00:22:39,194 --> 00:22:40,493 In the press? In this world 494 00:22:40,493 --> 00:22:42,172 that's controlled by Satan? 495 00:22:42,172 --> 00:22:45,564 Where are we going to go? 496 00:22:45,564 --> 00:22:46,913 Well, they're going to say, 497 00:22:46,913 --> 00:22:49,008 well, we've got these other books over here 498 00:22:49,008 --> 00:22:50,189 that we need to go to. 499 00:22:50,189 --> 00:22:53,943 But again, my argument would come back to this: 500 00:22:53,943 --> 00:22:55,844 This book says that if they don't speak 501 00:22:55,844 --> 00:22:58,791 according to what's written here, 502 00:22:58,791 --> 00:23:00,856 it's because there's no light in them. 503 00:23:00,856 --> 00:23:03,724 This book tells me that God promised 504 00:23:03,724 --> 00:23:05,284 He's going to preserve His Word, 505 00:23:05,284 --> 00:23:06,181 and you know what? 506 00:23:06,181 --> 00:23:08,528 I'm banking my soul on that. 507 00:23:08,528 --> 00:23:10,327 And one of the reason that I believe 508 00:23:10,327 --> 00:23:12,652 that this is the Word 509 00:23:12,652 --> 00:23:13,882 is because in reading it 510 00:23:13,882 --> 00:23:16,510 and exposing myself to it, I was born again. 511 00:23:16,510 --> 00:23:18,517 Just like it says: born again. 512 00:23:18,517 --> 00:23:20,342 Living, abiding Word of God. 513 00:23:20,342 --> 00:23:22,765 Incorruptible. I was born again through it. 514 00:23:22,765 --> 00:23:24,647 Such life transformation. 515 00:23:24,647 --> 00:23:27,131 It wasn't a burning in the bosom. 516 00:23:27,131 --> 00:23:28,984 It was a life-transformation 517 00:23:28,984 --> 00:23:32,402 from ungodliness to one where holiness 518 00:23:32,402 --> 00:23:34,476 and hunger and thirst for righteousness, 519 00:23:34,476 --> 00:23:37,066 and where practicing righteousness 520 00:23:37,066 --> 00:23:41,871 became my desire. 521 00:23:41,871 --> 00:23:43,791 It's this book - 522 00:23:43,791 --> 00:23:46,050 basically what this book says 523 00:23:46,050 --> 00:23:49,168 can be confirmed on all sides. 524 00:23:49,168 --> 00:23:51,999 You know the way that this book describes man, 525 00:23:51,999 --> 00:23:53,191 we can look around 526 00:23:53,191 --> 00:23:54,872 and as sinful as it says man is, 527 00:23:54,872 --> 00:23:56,080 we look around and we see 528 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:57,284 he's exactly like that. 529 00:23:57,284 --> 00:23:59,382 The very thing that man needs - 530 00:23:59,382 --> 00:24:01,266 a righteousness that was earned 531 00:24:01,266 --> 00:24:04,505 by One who came into this world to earn it 532 00:24:04,505 --> 00:24:06,337 that we couldn't earn ourselves - 533 00:24:06,337 --> 00:24:09,554 that's exactly what we need. 534 00:24:09,554 --> 00:24:13,115 Listen, I've just been reading out of Luke. 535 00:24:13,115 --> 00:24:16,377 I go to Luke's Gospel, 536 00:24:16,377 --> 00:24:18,062 and I start reading, 537 00:24:18,062 --> 00:24:19,290 and you know what I find? 538 00:24:19,290 --> 00:24:22,554 I find that it states things like this - 539 00:24:22,554 --> 00:24:24,203 it talks about Galilee. 540 00:24:24,203 --> 00:24:26,407 It talks about Nazareth. 541 00:24:26,407 --> 00:24:28,303 Here I am in Luke. 542 00:24:28,303 --> 00:24:30,545 "In those days, Mary arose. 543 00:24:30,545 --> 00:24:32,038 She went to the hill country." 544 00:24:32,038 --> 00:24:33,980 There's a town in Judah. 545 00:24:33,980 --> 00:24:35,556 There's literal people. 546 00:24:35,556 --> 00:24:37,317 Zechariah, Elizabeth... 547 00:24:37,317 --> 00:24:39,114 you go through all these things. 548 00:24:39,114 --> 00:24:40,840 You find "in those days..." 549 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,605 There was Caesar Augustus. 550 00:24:42,605 --> 00:24:44,405 "The world should be registered. 551 00:24:44,405 --> 00:24:46,706 This was the first registration 552 00:24:46,706 --> 00:24:50,895 when Quirinius was governor of Syria." 553 00:24:50,895 --> 00:24:53,074 And Joseph also went up from Galilee, 554 00:24:53,074 --> 00:24:55,417 the town of Nazareth, city of David, 555 00:24:55,417 --> 00:24:56,845 Bethlehem. 556 00:24:56,845 --> 00:24:58,869 You go through all these things 557 00:24:58,869 --> 00:25:02,082 and you find "15th year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar, 558 00:25:02,082 --> 00:25:04,563 Pontius Pilate being governor of Judea." 559 00:25:04,563 --> 00:25:06,464 Herod being tetrarch of Galilee. 560 00:25:06,464 --> 00:25:08,002 His brother Phillip, tetrarch... 561 00:25:08,002 --> 00:25:10,105 You know what the thing is about this book? 562 00:25:10,105 --> 00:25:13,311 It talks about real places and real people 563 00:25:13,311 --> 00:25:16,797 that archeology and history validate. 564 00:25:16,797 --> 00:25:18,060 The more we find out, 565 00:25:18,060 --> 00:25:19,859 the more is discovered... 566 00:25:19,859 --> 00:25:24,596 they find Sennacherib's six-sided deal 567 00:25:24,596 --> 00:25:27,819 that shows all about his conquerings 568 00:25:27,819 --> 00:25:30,922 and his quests, and guess what? 569 00:25:30,922 --> 00:25:32,998 There's really a King Hezekiah. 570 00:25:32,998 --> 00:25:36,435 And it specifically says that he trapped him 571 00:25:36,435 --> 00:25:38,544 in his city, 572 00:25:38,544 --> 00:25:40,963 and he basically walled him up like a rat 573 00:25:40,963 --> 00:25:43,527 or something like that, 574 00:25:43,527 --> 00:25:45,348 but he never entered it 575 00:25:45,348 --> 00:25:47,720 and that's exactly what God said. 576 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,879 That's exactly what His own testimony bears witness to. 577 00:25:50,879 --> 00:25:54,869 Caesar, Tiberius - he's real. 578 00:25:54,869 --> 00:25:56,481 We know about him historically. 579 00:25:56,481 --> 00:25:58,790 Pontius Pilate - he's real. 580 00:25:58,790 --> 00:25:59,667 We know about him. 581 00:25:59,667 --> 00:26:01,357 Quirinius - we know about him. 582 00:26:01,357 --> 00:26:02,831 There is a place called Syria. 583 00:26:02,831 --> 00:26:05,108 There is a place called Bethlehem. 584 00:26:05,108 --> 00:26:07,050 All these places are real. 585 00:26:07,050 --> 00:26:10,494 The Book of Mormon is entirely fictitious 586 00:26:10,494 --> 00:26:12,700 and they can't prove any of the places, 587 00:26:12,700 --> 00:26:14,028 any of the people, 588 00:26:14,028 --> 00:26:16,155 at any of the times. 589 00:26:16,155 --> 00:26:18,231 None of it stands up to archeology. 590 00:26:18,231 --> 00:26:21,186 None of up it stands up to anything. 591 00:26:21,186 --> 00:26:22,518 History doesn't bear it out. 592 00:26:22,518 --> 00:26:24,052 Archeology doesn't bear it out. 593 00:26:24,052 --> 00:26:26,305 There's no proof for anything in it. 594 00:26:26,305 --> 00:26:30,457 Yet, everything written in this book bears up. 595 00:26:30,457 --> 00:26:31,999 "Add to these words, 596 00:26:31,999 --> 00:26:35,212 and you shall have added to you the plagues." 597 00:26:35,212 --> 00:26:37,006 Now, Mormons are going to come along 598 00:26:37,006 --> 00:26:39,977 and say yeah, but all that's saying is, 599 00:26:39,977 --> 00:26:41,844 similar words are said in Deuteronomy, 600 00:26:41,844 --> 00:26:43,600 similar words are said in Proverbs. 601 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,550 They would say, well, we're not supposed to add to Proverbs. 602 00:26:46,550 --> 00:26:48,539 We're not supposed to add to Deuteronomy. 603 00:26:48,539 --> 00:26:50,682 We're not supposed to add to Revelation. 604 00:26:50,682 --> 00:26:54,625 By the way, Joseph Smith changed them all. 605 00:26:54,625 --> 00:26:56,411 How does that figure? 606 00:26:56,411 --> 00:26:58,489 He added to them and deleted from them. 607 00:26:58,489 --> 00:27:02,251 The very books - even if the Mormons want to say that, 608 00:27:02,251 --> 00:27:04,672 if they want to say that those words 609 00:27:04,672 --> 00:27:06,225 apply to those books only, 610 00:27:06,225 --> 00:27:09,479 Joseph Smith came right along and changed them. 611 00:27:09,479 --> 00:27:10,851 Those very books. 612 00:27:10,851 --> 00:27:14,257 So their argument doesn't stand up. 613 00:27:14,257 --> 00:27:17,004 They show who they really are. 614 00:27:17,004 --> 00:27:19,806 The devil came along in the beginning, 615 00:27:19,806 --> 00:27:22,445 and he challenged the Word of God. 616 00:27:22,445 --> 00:27:26,926 Jesus said, "Sanctify them 617 00:27:26,926 --> 00:27:29,764 with Your truth, 618 00:27:29,764 --> 00:27:33,433 Your Word is truth." 619 00:27:33,433 --> 00:27:36,024 You know what that tells me? 620 00:27:36,024 --> 00:27:41,091 That if God doesn't keep His people 621 00:27:41,091 --> 00:27:45,394 through all generations with the Word, 622 00:27:45,394 --> 00:27:49,540 that Jesus' prayer can't be true. 623 00:27:49,540 --> 00:27:50,945 He didn't say sanctify them 624 00:27:50,945 --> 00:27:54,554 with the Book of Mormon. 625 00:27:54,554 --> 00:27:57,619 It doesn't say that the Book of Mormon is God-breathed. 626 00:27:57,619 --> 00:28:00,076 It says all Scripture is. 627 00:28:00,076 --> 00:28:03,661 It says that Scripture - God-breathed - 628 00:28:03,661 --> 00:28:09,423 is sufficient to fully equip the man of God. 629 00:28:09,423 --> 00:28:11,105 Doctrine and reproof and correction 630 00:28:11,105 --> 00:28:12,718 and instruction in righteousness. 631 00:28:12,718 --> 00:28:15,637 No mention made of "The Pearl of Great Price." 632 00:28:15,637 --> 00:28:19,570 No mention made but of Scripture 633 00:28:19,570 --> 00:28:23,457 which is God-breathed. 634 00:28:23,457 --> 00:28:26,391 This is it. 635 00:28:26,391 --> 00:28:30,039 Lose this book, 636 00:28:30,039 --> 00:28:33,464 and your foundations are gone. 637 00:28:33,464 --> 00:28:35,474 Why does every false religion start 638 00:28:35,474 --> 00:28:37,035 by attacking here? 639 00:28:37,035 --> 00:28:39,757 Because that's what their father did 640 00:28:39,757 --> 00:28:42,695 in the beginning. 641 00:28:42,695 --> 00:28:46,443 The devil gives himself away all the time. 642 00:28:46,443 --> 00:28:48,874 He levels the guns at this book. 643 00:28:48,874 --> 00:28:52,486 Catholicism? Our tradition trumps this book. 644 00:28:52,486 --> 00:28:56,501 Mormonism? Our Book of Mormon... 645 00:28:56,501 --> 00:29:02,658 just the fact three of their books are infallible 646 00:29:02,658 --> 00:29:05,451 of the four that they use, that they claim, 647 00:29:05,452 --> 00:29:07,204 are their religious books. 648 00:29:07,204 --> 00:29:09,684 Three are infallible. This one isn't. 649 00:29:09,684 --> 00:29:13,112 But what does that tell you? 650 00:29:13,112 --> 00:29:16,096 Either God's incompetent 651 00:29:16,096 --> 00:29:17,977 or somebody's behind that religion 652 00:29:17,977 --> 00:29:21,564 that doesn't like this book. 653 00:29:21,564 --> 00:29:24,292 I would not opt for the first. 654 00:29:24,292 --> 00:29:27,511 I would opt for the second. 655 00:29:27,511 --> 00:29:29,888 When they came here two weeks ago, 656 00:29:29,888 --> 00:29:31,409 that was one thing that I really 657 00:29:31,409 --> 00:29:33,686 wanted to establish right up front 658 00:29:33,686 --> 00:29:38,870 is your christ and my Christ are not the same. 659 00:29:38,870 --> 00:29:40,833 You can use the same terminology, 660 00:29:40,833 --> 00:29:42,772 but the Bible talks about other christs. 661 00:29:42,772 --> 00:29:44,452 And it talks about other gospels, 662 00:29:44,452 --> 00:29:46,431 not that there truly is another christ 663 00:29:46,431 --> 00:29:47,644 or another gospel, 664 00:29:47,644 --> 00:29:49,483 but it speaks about it that way 665 00:29:49,483 --> 00:29:52,782 and I just wanted to make certain, 666 00:29:52,782 --> 00:29:54,991 our Christ isn't the same. 667 00:29:54,991 --> 00:29:56,410 Because what they want to do 668 00:29:56,410 --> 00:29:57,810 is they want to come and say, 669 00:29:57,810 --> 00:30:01,625 "Well, we believe in Jesus Christ." 670 00:30:01,625 --> 00:30:04,974 Well, wait a second. 671 00:30:04,974 --> 00:30:06,530 The Christ of the Scriptures - 672 00:30:06,530 --> 00:30:11,453 the One who is represented by that name, 673 00:30:11,453 --> 00:30:16,127 has all sorts of attributes associated with Him, 674 00:30:16,127 --> 00:30:18,265 and they deny those. 675 00:30:18,265 --> 00:30:20,958 And they have a whole other thought 676 00:30:20,958 --> 00:30:23,147 about who He is. 677 00:30:23,147 --> 00:30:26,909 You know, if we go beyond salvation, 678 00:30:26,909 --> 00:30:31,370 we just think about the eternal state of man. 679 00:30:31,370 --> 00:30:34,630 We look at heaven as a paradise. 680 00:30:34,630 --> 00:30:36,209 We look at heaven as a place 681 00:30:36,209 --> 00:30:40,892 where we are married to Christ. 682 00:30:40,892 --> 00:30:43,254 Again, Mormons totally reject that. 683 00:30:43,254 --> 00:30:44,980 They see heaven 684 00:30:44,980 --> 00:30:46,728 or they see the afterlife 685 00:30:46,728 --> 00:30:49,191 for those who were good in this life 686 00:30:49,191 --> 00:30:51,272 as being perpetually married 687 00:30:51,272 --> 00:30:53,491 and having all these wives 688 00:30:53,491 --> 00:30:56,457 by which they'll populate their own worlds 689 00:30:56,457 --> 00:30:58,741 now that they have become like Elohim; 690 00:30:58,741 --> 00:31:00,545 they've become like God Himself, 691 00:31:00,545 --> 00:31:02,027 and they've got all these wives 692 00:31:02,027 --> 00:31:04,416 and they're having all these spirit children 693 00:31:04,416 --> 00:31:06,966 and they basically become like Him. 694 00:31:06,966 --> 00:31:10,163 But didn't Jesus say to the Sadducees, 695 00:31:10,163 --> 00:31:11,501 you've got it all wrong. 696 00:31:11,501 --> 00:31:14,474 You don't understand the Scriptures. 697 00:31:14,474 --> 00:31:16,961 We become like the angels. 698 00:31:16,961 --> 00:31:20,192 There is no marriage among us. 699 00:31:20,192 --> 00:31:22,616 We go to the marriage supper of the Lamb. 700 00:31:22,616 --> 00:31:25,385 We wait for a Bridegroom, that's true. 701 00:31:25,385 --> 00:31:27,801 But we become married to Him. 702 00:31:27,801 --> 00:31:29,774 The church is the bride. 703 00:31:29,774 --> 00:31:32,888 The marriage in glory is to Christ. 704 00:31:32,888 --> 00:31:36,126 It's not that we become like Christ 705 00:31:36,126 --> 00:31:38,330 in the sense that we become 706 00:31:38,330 --> 00:31:42,099 exactly as He is - a God like He is God, 707 00:31:42,099 --> 00:31:44,963 and we have our own spirit wives 708 00:31:44,963 --> 00:31:48,530 and have this constant celestial sex 709 00:31:48,530 --> 00:31:49,582 through all the ages. 710 00:31:49,582 --> 00:31:52,124 That's what they teach. 711 00:31:52,124 --> 00:31:57,218 In fact, they taught that Jesus Himself had wives. 712 00:31:57,218 --> 00:32:00,004 Mary Magdalene was one of them. 713 00:32:00,004 --> 00:32:03,439 He had three or four wives. 714 00:32:03,439 --> 00:32:05,906 That is not what we find in Scripture. 715 00:32:05,906 --> 00:32:10,040 The eternal state is marriage to Christ. 716 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,449 You know, one of the things 717 00:32:11,449 --> 00:32:13,323 you want to look for any time 718 00:32:13,323 --> 00:32:16,448 you're wondering if something is Christian 719 00:32:16,448 --> 00:32:18,994 you want to look at their doctrine of hell. 720 00:32:18,994 --> 00:32:21,202 They deny eternal hell. 721 00:32:21,202 --> 00:32:22,798 Now, they'll talk about a hell, 722 00:32:22,798 --> 00:32:24,826 but it's temporary at best. 723 00:32:24,826 --> 00:32:27,181 They'll talk about eternal fire, 724 00:32:27,181 --> 00:32:30,628 but it's like that - it's not really fire. 725 00:32:30,628 --> 00:32:32,371 It's just like that. 726 00:32:32,371 --> 00:32:34,355 And they say whatever hell is, 727 00:32:34,355 --> 00:32:36,684 it's not forever. 728 00:32:36,684 --> 00:32:38,643 That basically, it's extinguished. 729 00:32:38,643 --> 00:32:41,448 It comes to an end. 730 00:32:41,448 --> 00:32:43,548 Mormons teach this. 731 00:32:43,548 --> 00:32:46,610 They say, "therefore, 732 00:32:46,610 --> 00:32:49,001 if you have a man and he repents not 733 00:32:49,001 --> 00:32:51,494 and he remains and dies an enemy to God, 734 00:32:51,494 --> 00:32:53,453 the demands of divine justice 735 00:32:53,453 --> 00:32:55,300 do awaken his immortal soul 736 00:32:55,300 --> 00:32:57,559 to a lively sense of his own guilt, 737 00:32:57,559 --> 00:32:59,269 which doth cause him to shrink 738 00:32:59,269 --> 00:33:01,373 from the presence of the Lord, 739 00:33:01,373 --> 00:33:03,391 and doth fill his breast with guilt, 740 00:33:03,391 --> 00:33:04,821 and pain, and anguish, 741 00:33:04,821 --> 00:33:08,900 which is like an unquenchable fire." 742 00:33:08,900 --> 00:33:10,340 You see how they say that? 743 00:33:10,340 --> 00:33:12,761 That's what it says in Mosiah 2:38. 744 00:33:12,761 --> 00:33:15,624 Listen to this. 745 00:33:15,624 --> 00:33:19,350 Joseph Smith himself taught, 746 00:33:19,350 --> 00:33:22,073 "these are they who are liars, 747 00:33:22,073 --> 00:33:25,414 sorcerers, adulterers, whoremongers, 748 00:33:25,414 --> 00:33:28,027 and whosoever loves and makes a lie. 749 00:33:28,027 --> 00:33:30,339 These are they who are cast down to hell 750 00:33:30,339 --> 00:33:32,235 and suffer the wrath of Almighty God 751 00:33:32,235 --> 00:33:35,244 until the fullness of times." 752 00:33:35,244 --> 00:33:37,735 There's an end. 753 00:33:37,735 --> 00:33:39,404 "...When Christ shall have subdued 754 00:33:39,404 --> 00:33:40,848 all enemies under His feet 755 00:33:40,848 --> 00:33:42,749 and shall have perfected His work." 756 00:33:42,749 --> 00:33:46,182 In other words, hell is for now, 757 00:33:46,182 --> 00:33:49,883 but when all of Christ's enemies are subdued, 758 00:33:49,883 --> 00:33:51,460 then it's over. 759 00:33:51,460 --> 00:33:54,765 It's not perpetual. 760 00:33:54,765 --> 00:33:56,341 It's not ongoing. 761 00:33:56,341 --> 00:33:59,077 It's not forever and ever. 762 00:33:59,077 --> 00:34:03,819 It's not this eternal punishment. 763 00:34:03,819 --> 00:34:05,933 It's not the smoke of their torment 764 00:34:05,933 --> 00:34:09,970 going up day and night forever and ever. 765 00:34:09,970 --> 00:34:11,905 It's not a: these will depart 766 00:34:11,905 --> 00:34:14,109 into everlasting punishment. 767 00:34:14,109 --> 00:34:15,842 They deny that. 768 00:34:15,842 --> 00:34:18,656 They deny the eternality of hell. 769 00:34:18,656 --> 00:34:20,185 Look what we're faced with. 770 00:34:20,185 --> 00:34:21,599 We're faced with a religion 771 00:34:21,599 --> 00:34:22,959 that claims to be Christian. 772 00:34:22,959 --> 00:34:24,354 We're faced with a religion 773 00:34:24,354 --> 00:34:25,987 that when they come to your door, 774 00:34:25,987 --> 00:34:29,062 they talk Christian terminology. 775 00:34:29,062 --> 00:34:30,915 They talk about atonement. 776 00:34:30,915 --> 00:34:32,533 They talk about Jesus Christ. 777 00:34:32,533 --> 00:34:34,029 They talk about God. 778 00:34:34,029 --> 00:34:37,016 They talk about Christ being the Son. 779 00:34:37,016 --> 00:34:41,007 They talk salvation words. 780 00:34:41,007 --> 00:34:45,527 And they put a Christian face on these things, 781 00:34:45,527 --> 00:34:47,172 but their meanings behind them 782 00:34:47,172 --> 00:34:48,753 are not the same as ours. 783 00:34:48,753 --> 00:34:50,594 Every cardinal doctrine, 784 00:34:50,594 --> 00:34:52,141 every fundamental doctrine. 785 00:34:52,141 --> 00:34:55,659 They absolutely deny the Christian doctrine 786 00:34:55,659 --> 00:34:58,118 of the sufficiency of Scripture, 787 00:34:58,118 --> 00:34:59,719 the inerrancy of Scripture, 788 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,077 they absolutely deny what we believe 789 00:35:02,077 --> 00:35:04,838 to be true about the Person of God, 790 00:35:04,838 --> 00:35:07,659 His character, His eternal character as God, 791 00:35:07,659 --> 00:35:09,994 His unchanging character as God, 792 00:35:09,994 --> 00:35:12,006 the fact that He is spirit. 793 00:35:12,006 --> 00:35:14,580 They absolutely deny the person 794 00:35:14,580 --> 00:35:16,062 and the work of Jesus Christ. 795 00:35:16,062 --> 00:35:17,495 They claim that He's created. 796 00:35:17,495 --> 00:35:20,235 They claim that He's brother to the devil. 797 00:35:20,235 --> 00:35:22,192 They claim that He's the firstborn 798 00:35:22,192 --> 00:35:25,313 among all of us, maybe just like us, 799 00:35:25,313 --> 00:35:27,768 and we just like Him - no difference 800 00:35:27,768 --> 00:35:30,055 in His very essence of being. 801 00:35:30,055 --> 00:35:31,555 He's just like us. 802 00:35:31,555 --> 00:35:33,853 They basically deny 803 00:35:33,853 --> 00:35:38,475 that the cross is really the point 804 00:35:38,475 --> 00:35:40,318 of the shedding of blood - 805 00:35:40,318 --> 00:35:42,116 without the shedding of blood, 806 00:35:42,116 --> 00:35:43,287 there's no remission. 807 00:35:43,287 --> 00:35:45,559 It doesn't say "without the sweating of blood." 808 00:35:45,559 --> 00:35:47,882 Without the shedding of blood. 809 00:35:47,882 --> 00:35:51,741 They put emphasis on what He did in the garden. 810 00:35:51,741 --> 00:35:53,768 They say that His atonement really 811 00:35:53,768 --> 00:35:55,279 only made it possible. 812 00:35:55,279 --> 00:35:56,860 It didn't accomplish anything. 813 00:35:56,860 --> 00:35:59,915 And in the end, all they're saying 814 00:35:59,915 --> 00:36:02,050 is that it made it possible to accomplish 815 00:36:02,050 --> 00:36:05,995 is to rid us of the guilt of Adam's sin. 816 00:36:05,995 --> 00:36:07,475 As far as our own sin, 817 00:36:07,475 --> 00:36:09,933 we have to do everything within our own power 818 00:36:09,933 --> 00:36:11,430 and then maybe His atonement 819 00:36:11,430 --> 00:36:13,160 finishes it off at the end. 820 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,533 But we have to do everything within our own power 821 00:36:15,533 --> 00:36:17,067 to be good and to fulfill 822 00:36:17,067 --> 00:36:18,900 all the laws and all the obligations 823 00:36:18,900 --> 00:36:21,711 of the church of Latter-day Saints. 824 00:36:21,711 --> 00:36:23,590 That's basically how you get to heaven. 825 00:36:23,590 --> 00:36:25,938 That's basically how you get the approval of God. 826 00:36:25,938 --> 00:36:27,247 It is through our works. 827 00:36:27,247 --> 00:36:30,069 You see how they absolutely detest 828 00:36:30,069 --> 00:36:32,479 the doctrine of justification by faith 829 00:36:32,479 --> 00:36:36,102 upon which is the very heart and soul 830 00:36:36,102 --> 00:36:37,266 of our Gospel. 831 00:36:37,266 --> 00:36:38,713 We have no Gospel 832 00:36:38,713 --> 00:36:41,415 unless we have the doctrine of justification. 833 00:36:41,415 --> 00:36:43,185 They absolutely deny it. 834 00:36:43,185 --> 00:36:44,145 They hate it. 835 00:36:44,145 --> 00:36:46,522 Joseph Smith himself changed the Scriptures 836 00:36:46,522 --> 00:36:48,508 to seek to undo it. 837 00:36:48,508 --> 00:36:50,943 Their ideas about heaven 838 00:36:50,943 --> 00:36:52,773 are totally unlike the Christian ones. 839 00:36:52,773 --> 00:36:55,678 And their ideas of hell are [too]. 840 00:36:55,678 --> 00:36:57,702 So they deny the person of the Father. 841 00:36:57,702 --> 00:36:59,192 They deny the person of Christ. 842 00:36:59,192 --> 00:37:02,122 They deny the way of salvation. 843 00:37:02,122 --> 00:37:03,942 They deny eternal punishment. 844 00:37:03,942 --> 00:37:07,905 They deny our ideas about eternal paradise. 845 00:37:07,905 --> 00:37:10,283 These are all the core doctrines. 846 00:37:10,283 --> 00:37:12,917 They deny what we believe is essential 847 00:37:12,917 --> 00:37:15,116 about the Scriptures. 848 00:37:15,116 --> 00:37:16,687 I mean, the thing is, 849 00:37:16,687 --> 00:37:21,002 are we going to call that Christian? 850 00:37:21,002 --> 00:37:23,150 They are in absolute denial 851 00:37:23,150 --> 00:37:26,810 of every major doctrinal statement, 852 00:37:26,810 --> 00:37:29,039 orthodox Christian doctrine statement 853 00:37:29,039 --> 00:37:30,320 that has been created. 854 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:31,444 You begin to look up 855 00:37:31,444 --> 00:37:32,968 just in the circles we run in. 856 00:37:32,968 --> 00:37:35,515 You think about the 1689 London Baptist Confession, 857 00:37:35,515 --> 00:37:37,946 the 1644, the Philadelphia, 858 00:37:37,946 --> 00:37:39,017 the New Hampshire, 859 00:37:39,017 --> 00:37:41,123 even the different articles that have been 860 00:37:41,123 --> 00:37:44,305 put out by the Southern Baptists over the years. 861 00:37:44,305 --> 00:37:46,448 I mean, you look at the Baptist confessions. 862 00:37:46,448 --> 00:37:48,613 You look at the Westminster Confession. 863 00:37:48,613 --> 00:37:50,439 You look at the Heidelberg. 864 00:37:50,439 --> 00:37:55,556 You look at these statements of faith. 865 00:37:55,556 --> 00:37:58,187 Everything that we hold dear, 866 00:37:58,187 --> 00:38:01,086 essential in these about the person of God, 867 00:38:01,086 --> 00:38:02,288 the way of salvation, 868 00:38:02,288 --> 00:38:04,116 about the truths about Scripture, 869 00:38:04,116 --> 00:38:05,701 the Mormon church denies. 870 00:38:05,701 --> 00:38:07,092 Are they going to come along 871 00:38:07,092 --> 00:38:08,367 and sell us on the fact 872 00:38:08,367 --> 00:38:10,160 that they are Christian? 873 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,660 They are absolutely not Christian. 874 00:38:13,660 --> 00:38:16,499 Not by any sound defintion 875 00:38:16,499 --> 00:38:18,087 of what Christianity is. 876 00:38:18,087 --> 00:38:20,565 Not by any biblical definition 877 00:38:20,565 --> 00:38:22,160 of what Christianity is. 878 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,801 And not by any historic definition 879 00:38:24,801 --> 00:38:27,476 of what our forefathers have declared 880 00:38:27,476 --> 00:38:30,252 to be essential to the core beliefs 881 00:38:30,252 --> 00:38:33,426 of Christianity that have gone before us. 882 00:38:33,426 --> 00:38:34,636 So absolutely not. 883 00:38:34,636 --> 00:38:36,300 They are not Christian.